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2004/6/8-9 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:30683 Activity:high
6/8     Why doesn't Zogby have Bush winning California?
        http://www.zogby.com/News/ReadNews.dbm?ID=833
        \_ Yeah, well he doesn't have Kerry winning Alaska either, but you'd
           have to smoke a solid pound of Matanuska Thunderfuck to think
           Kerry has a chance of winning Alaska.  And no one gives a shit,
           which is really the point.
        \_ He's only considering states that are close, like Washington and
           Oregon.  Bush has a whelk's chance in hell of winning California,
           so he's not even considering it.  The same goes with Texas, except
           in the opposite sense.  Notice that his poll is only conducted
           in certain states at the moment:
           http://www.zogby.com/features/features.dbm?ID=212
        \_ Zogby is trying way too hard.  Reputation go down. -a libural
        \_ Why don't we just let Zogby decide months in advance who the next
           President will be and save all that money and time on the whole
           election process, debates, etc?  Since we know for a fact that
           Zogby can accurately predict elections with 100% accuracy, we no
           longer have need for the election process, right?
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Released: June 08, 2004 If Election Held Today - Kerry To Win 296 to 242, New Zogby Interactive Presidential Battleground Poll Reveals In the two weeks since the last Zogby Interactive poll, the American political scene has changed somewhat, and the poll numbers reflect that, for the first time in months, there were no major problems erupting in either Iraq or the domestic economy, not counting an occasional spike in local gas prices. The poll numbers reflect a slight improvement for the President. Based on interactive polls conducted June 1-6 by Zogby Interactive of Utica, New York in 16 battleground states around the country, Democratic presidential challenger John Kerry would defeat the incumbent today by an Electoral College tally of 296 to 242. However, races in several states are simply too close to call. Two weeks ago, Mr Kerry held a 102-vote lead in the Electoral College, 320-218. Most of the change comes in two key states - Ohio (with 20 votes) and Missouri (which has 11) - which both switched from the Kerry to the Bush column. Again, the races there are very close and could flip several more times before November. Mr Kerry, meanwhile, has captured two states - Iowa and West Virginia - that had favored Mr Bush two weeks ago. Since the last interactive polling was done, Republican President Bush went before the nation in what was billed as an important speech on the future of Iraq, where he vowed, as he has before, to stay the course. A new government has been established there since the last polling, and the latest 16 state-by-state surveys show Mr Bush benefited from that turn for the better. Mr Bush took advantage of geography in delivering that speech, which was carried live on cable - but not broadcast - television, and which received wide coverage in print. 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Zogby International will be polling in 16 Battleground States. Polling will be conducted interactively from May 19th thru October 4th - 10 reports will be published (1 report in May, 2 reports in June, 2 reports in July, 2 reports in August, 2 reports in September, and 1 report in October) CAPTION: Below is a list of states that will be polled New Hampshire Pennsylvania Ohio Michigan West Virginia Florida Missouri Iowa Wisconsin Minnesota Washington Oregon Nevada Tennessee New Mexico Arkansas Zogby International's "2004 Election Tracking - Round 1" goes behind the headlines to give you stats you won't hear on TV or read in the newspapers. Not just "who" the voters like, but 'why" and "how much." All the insights you need for the 2004 Presidential Election. Each month, you will receive 2 exclusive-for-subscribers reports, with the famed Zogby analysis of results for the states we're covering. Questions that will be asked: * If the election for president were held today, for whom would you vote -Republican George W Bush or Democrat John Kerry? If there were another major terrorist attack in the United States, who would you prefer to have as president - George Bush or John Kerry? com Below is a list of dates that each report will be available to subscribers*: May 25 June 8 June 22 July 13 July 27 Aug.