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6/4     Fuck Enron, Fuck Bush! Bush is Capitalist Scumbag at its best,
        yeah, let the market work it out, hehe.
        \_ huh?
           \_ http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/us_enron_justice
        \_ Too late. They fucked us first.
        \_ How are you linking Bush to Enron?  He didn't help them when they
           asked for it.  Ken Lay is *not* the Sec'y of Energy, etc.  Most of
           the abuses happened when Clinton was president and they got nailed
           during Bush's administration.
           \_ Because obviously EVERYTHING bad is Bush's fault, and
              everything good comes from Democrates.  Sheesh, some people
              are so small minded.
              \_ which obvious logical fallacy is this chump trying to
                 poop into our discourse? 2 points for a correct answer. -aaron
                 \_ straw man?
                 \_ coming from a self proclaimed troll and who gets
                    infuriated, like a little boy with his hand caught in the
                    cookie jar, when he's caught outright making shit up,
                    you're in position to be critical of others here.
           \_ Enron was Bush's number one campaign contributor. Enron helped
              write the American energy policies, in meetings that are still
              being kept secret from the American public. The most severe
              damage to California's economy from the power outages happened
              on Bush's watch. California asked the Bush appointed FERC to
              implement energy caps, which they refused to do. Need I go on?
              \_ Enron was NOT the #1 campaign contributor (I know the Enron
                 yuks said that on the tape, but they were incorrect).  How do
                 you know they helped write energy policies--last I checked the
                 meetings are STILL secret, and congress still hasn't passed
                 Bush's energy bill.  As for caps, conservatives are against
                 them in general.
                 \_ http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.asp?Ind=E&Cycle=2000
                    We know that Enron attended the energy meeting hearings.
                    The notes of those meetings are being kept from the
                    public. Did you honestly not know this, or are you being
                    disingenuous?
                    http://www.publicintegrity.org/bop2004/report.aspx?aid=220
                    \_ Are you obtuse?  His energy policy wasn't passed.  It
                       doesn't matter if the only thing to come out of the
                       meetings was a plan to actively fuck CA and divert
                       Iraqi war funds into Ken Lay's pocket.  Nothing came
                       of any of it.
                       \_ Uh, yeah.  The energy bill currently in Congress
                          has not passed.  That's just a portion of the
                          administration's policy.
                    \_ Your link shows Enron at the top of the list in the
                       energy industry, not overall.  I know that Enron-related
                       people were in the meeting, but neither you nor I know
                       what was said.  Keep using that tin-foil hat.
                       \_ Don't need it.  The SC will pry it open soon enough.
                       \_ Did you look at the publicintegrity link? Enron
                          was Bush's number one lifetime contributor in 2000.
                          Until very recently, they were still number 1. So
                          let's see, we know that Bush met with his number
                          one lifetime contributor in the midst of the CA
                          energy crises. We know he has sued to keep the
                          notes from that meeting public. We know he appointed
                          Enron executives to his cabinet. Yet you still
                          maintain that Bush has "no links to Enron." Keep
                          dreaming, bub.
                    \_http://www.opensecrets.org/2000elect/contrib/P00003335.htm
                      \_ http://www.publicintegrity.org/bop2004/candidate.aspx?cid=1&act=cp
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METHODOLOGY: The numbers on this page are based on contributions from PACs, soft money donors, and individuals giving $200 or more. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates. All donations took place during the 1999-2000 election cycle and were released by the Federal Election Commission. Feel free to distribute or cite this material, but please credit the Center for Responsive Politics.
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The Buying of the President 2004," a book by the Center for Public Integrity detailing the financial interests behind each presidential candidate. The Center's study found that investment companies continue to make staggering donations to Bush, driven by so-called bundlers. Nine of Bush's largest ten donors during October 2003 through January 2004 were financial services companies. All of Bush's ten largest donors from October through January are linked to bundlers who have pledged to donate $100,000 to $250,000 as part of the president's Pioneer and Ranger Programs. Officials Investigated about Enron Scandal Who Gave to Bush Individuals Former Position Status Donations Kenneth Lay* Chief executive officer Under Investigation $139,500 Jeffrey K Skilling chief executive Pleaded not guilty $6,000 Kevin Hannon Assistant treasurer Negotiating plea $3,000 Joe Hirko Treasurer Pleaded guilty $1,000 Kenneth Rice Finance executive Pleaded guilty $1,000 Richard Causey chief accounting officer Pleaded guilty $1,000 Ben F Glisan Jr. Finance executive Indicted $500 Andrew S Fastow Accountant Indicted $200 * Lay's figures include donations from his family. The change in the top donor spot occurred in January, when MBNA employees donated $6,000 to the Bush campaign--enough to push the company, which calls itself the world's largest independent credit card issuer--ahead of Enron. PricewaterhouseCoopers, which contributed $214,000 during the last four disclosed months, came in fourth, with a total of $576,698. Rounding out Bush's top five career patrons was UBS AG Inc. In its 2003 filings with the Senate Office of Public Records, the credit card firm disclosed that it lobbied Congress, the Bush administration and the Treasury Department on a host of issues, including provisions of the USA PATRIOT Act on banking records, amendments to the Fair Credit Reporting Act, and tax issues. The firm reported spending a total of $52 million on lobbying that year. A more recent Center study about the Enron scandal found that seven of the company's employees who have been indicted by the federal government have personally donated to the various Bush campaigns--including former chief executive Jeffrey K Skilling. Bush's largest donor from Enron remains longtime friend and former chief executive officer Kenneth Lay. He and his family have given the president $139,500 over the years, which accounts for almost a quarter of Enron's contributions to Bush. Lay is under investigation but "is the only top executive in the major corporate scandals who has not been indicted," according to the Wall Street Journal. So far the president's campaign has raised $1464 million and spent $408 million. During the last four months Bush is raising an average of $497,832 a day. Top Ten Donors to Bush During the Last Four Months and Their Connections to His Bundlers Amount Organization Pioneers Rangers $214,000 Pricewaterhouse Coopers Partner Richard R Kilgus $126,300 Deloitte & Touche LLP Partner Paul Maynard $101,750 MBNA Corp. CEO Charles M Cawley and Senior Executive Vice Chair Lance Loring Weaver $85,655 Ernst & Young LLP Managing Director of Govt Relations Les Brorsen $80,254 Merrill Lynch & Co. Executive Vice President Dwight H Evans $76,000 Goldman Sachs Group CEO Henry M Paulson Jr. and Managing Partner George H Walker IV Limited Partner Peter R Coneway $71,350 UBS AG Inc. UBS Wealth Management USA CEO Joseph J Grano $64,325 Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co. Managing Director William H Strong $59,850 United Services Automobile Association Group CEO Robert G Davis List is based on contributions to Bush-Cheney '04 Inc. The Pioneers and Rangers listed are based on names published by Texans for Public Justice. He raised an average of $104,899 a day for the last four months. Being criticized for taking money from lobbying firms did not stop the Kerry campaign from accepting donations from such groups in January. In fact, the Center found, four of Kerry's top five donors during January were lobbying firms: Robins, Kaplan, Miller & Ciresi ($28,500); Rounding out the list was the non-lobbying law firm, Kreindler & Kreindler ($19,500). Kerry's top 10 list of career patrons for the first time. The firm, which lobbies on some insurance-related legislation, has given Kerry more than $135,000 throughout his career. Buy the Book Read the work that won the 2002 Investigative Reporters and Editors national book award. "The scope of this investigation is breathtaking," the judges wrote.
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Donors who give more than $200 must provide information on their occupation and employer. In cases where two or more people from the same family contributed, the income-earner's occupation/employer is assigned to all family members. If, for instance, Henry Jones lists his employer as First National Bank, his wife Matilda lists "Homemaker" and 12-year old Tammy shows up as "Student," the Center would identify all their contributions as being related to the "First National Bank" since that's the source of the family's income. NOTE: All the numbers on this page are for the 1999-2000 election cycle and based on Federal Election Commission data released on October 1, 2001. Feel free to distribute or cite this material, but please credit the Center for Responsive Politics.
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Based on contributions to Bush's gubernatorial, congressional presidential campaigns, inaugural committees, and recount fund through February 29, 2004. This list is based on individual, corporate and PAC contributions. Organization Total Pricewaterhouse Coopers $607,498 MBNA Corp.