6/2     Watch Bush asnwer unrehearsed questions on Iraq.
        rtsp://video.c-span.org/archive/iraq/iraq060104_bush1.rm
        \_ There was this interview with Bush about the 9/11 commission
           where he was interested to see what the commission said about
           our intelligence services.  In his own words, he said,
           "I look forward to seeing the intelligence and the looks."
           \_ "I voted for it before I voted against it".  You can find stupid
              quotes and bad speeches from any politician.  It's just easier
              to make fun of the other guy's politician and ignore or excuse
              the stupidity your own spews out.
              \_ I'm amazed that the right has clung on to this.  Most people
                 can understand the distinction between procedural and final
                 votes.
                 \_ It wasn't procedural.  He proposed an amendment to roll
                    back tax cuts to cover the $87 billion.  The amendment
                    failed, so he voted against the bill.  This was on the
                    supplemental appropriations bill.
                 \_ See?  That's exactly what I mean.  You guy always has an
                    excuse while the other guy is always an idiot.  Thank you
                    for making my point in response to my point.  Perfect.
                    \_ But what would you do if Bush *really was* an idiot?
        \_ Does this really need to be said?
           "I look forward to seeing the intelligence and the looks."
                == stupidity
           "I voted for it before I voted against it"
                == maneuvering
           If you measure by quality and quantity of quotes, Bush is far
           stupider, than Kerry maneuvers.
           It is also quite clear that George Bush II is worse than Dan Quayle.
                 \_ See?  That's exactly what I mean.  You guy always has an
                    excuse while the other guy is always an idiot.  Thank you
                    for making my point in response to my point.  Perfect.
                    \_ Don't you get it?  Republicans prefer a stupid guy
                       who will lower taxes, to a maneuvering guy who will
                       raise taxes.
                       \_ I do too. -- ilyas
           \_ Watch the video - he gives an excellent press conference.
              \_ I did.  The prepared speech is fine; most people only see
                 that.  The Q&A session showed he has a very hard time
                 responding to reporter's questions.  Unfortunately, most
                 people don't see Bush's Q&A sessions.
                 \_ Okay then we see something completely opposite.
                    \_ I'm guessing you think he isn't the most eloquent
                       person, but he's honest and direct.  Is that accurate?
                       \_ he recognizes his limitations, has vision, and
                          is not egomaniac.  I think he has wisdom and
                          conviction, though unrefined.  Were he 10-15 years
                          older I think he could have been as good as
                          Reagan.  Eloquence is superfluous.
                          \_ I'm guessing what you value in Bush, from highest
                             to lowest, is:
                             wisdom, conviction, has vision
                              > recognizes his limitations, not egomaniac
                              >> eloquence
                             Is this accurate?
                             \_ I suppose ... That said he's too liberal and
                                has too many establishment ties and the
                                accompanying corruption.  I think Bush I was
                                a mistake - CIA officials should be prohibited
                                from other branches of government.  Obviously
                                he is the lesser of evils compared to Kerry,
                                Gore, and Clinton (or most any dem).
                                \_ Sigh, I basically completely agree with
                                   this guy.