5/27    NYPress report asks editorial writer to go to Iraq to look for all the
        good things that are happening there. http://csua.org/u/7ho
        \_ Summary: smart ass 'journalist' offers to send John Q. Reader to
           Iraq to report on all the good things going on as long as he goes
           unarmed, unescorted and wears tshirt with a target on it.  Yeah,
           this convinced me that there isn't anything good going on in the
           entire country.  Well, ok, he admits that maybe one day some Iraqi
           woman might have learned to bake that day.  So instead of answering
           the reader's question about why only bad things get reported from
           Iraq, he wastes 2 pages fluffing his own ego trying to look clever.
           \_ Why do you hate the flag?
              \_ Why do you hate white people?
           \_ It is clever, and funny, and a little sadistic.
              \_ No, it isn't.  It is condescending and stupid.  For instance,
                 this journalist isn't treating this Justin fellow as a
                 customer (which is really what he is).
              \_ Yeah, I would've thought that was clever in 8th grade
                 too.  -jrleek
                 \_ It's still clever.
                    \_ If you're a moron or a partisan child, yeah -- it's top
                       notch.
                    \_ Not even in 8th grade.  "You made a valid point so I'm
                       going to blow you off and mock you and ask you to do
                       something dangerous which isn't necessary to do to
                       prove your point but it makes me look clever when I
                       preach to the choir".  If you hate Bush no matter what
                       he says or does and you think the media is part of some
                       vast right wing business controlled conspiracy then
                       you'll find it clever.
                       \_ If you love Bush no matter what he says or does and
                          you think the media is part of some vast left-wing
                          conspiracy then you'll think "the media isn't being
                          positive enough about what's happening in Iraq" is
                          a "valid point."
                          \_ The complaint that the media never reports
                             anything positive (if they can avoid it) is
                             hardly new, or exclusive to the Bush
                             supporters.  The correct answer in this case
                             is, "It bleeds it leads."  It has almost
                             nothing to do with politics.  But this silly
                             little piece of infantile sludge certainly
                             made it that way. -jrleek
                             \_ what positive stuff is being hidden from us?
                                did someone cure cancer and get ignored?
                                did israelis and palestinians stop killing
                                each other? did india and pakistan stop
                                the kashmir bs? good stuff gets reported.
                                fact is, there aren't a lot of positive
                                events on the same level of interest that
                                dramatic violence causes. "neutral" stuff
                                like politics gets reported a lot.
                                \_ good duck.  they reported months ago that
                                   there were electricity, food, water, crime,
                                   and a zillion other problems *in Iraq* (you
                                   know, the topic of this thread?) yet we
                                   don't hear squat about any of these problems
                                   after they're solved which leaves us to
                                   falsely believe that these are still
                                   problems and nothing good is happening in
                                   Iraq.  Next time try to stay with us on
                                   topic, ok?
                                   \_ You can find out about electricity, etc,
                                      if you look enough.  What you find won't
                                      be good because, again, there isn't much
                                      good to be found.  Most of Baghdad
                                      considers itself lucky if it gets 3 hours
                                      of electricity at a time
                                   \_ jrleek brought up "it bleeds it leads".
                                      And I'm not believing anything one way
                                      or another about electricity etc. just
                                      because genuine issues were reported
                                      months ago, as a result of our invasion,
                                      and the restoration of which isn't
                                      positive but a net neutrality. The
                                      democracy stuff is reported, but it's
                                      inherently boring (blah blah council
                                      did this or that). To do a happy fun
                                      story about fundamental needs not
                                      being a big problem in Iraq, amidst
                                      battles and bombings etc... which one
                                      is more newsworthy? duh. and you know
                                      it's premature to talk about democracy
                                      since it remains to be seen how that
                                      will turn out.
                       \_ No one hates Bush "no matter what he says or
                          does." Stop inventing strawmen. Everyone who
                          hates, or even dislikes Bush, hates him
                          precisely for what he says and does.
                          \_ No one, eh?  This reminds me of the guy who
                             remarked, on a newsgroup, that he would hate
                             Bush even if he invented a cure for cancer.
                             You overestimate people's rationality.
                               -- ilyas
                             \_ The best you can come up with is some crank
                                on a newsgroup? *laugh*
                                \_ And the wall, and the motd.  Either you
                                   wall cranks should be dismissed as the
                                   partisan cranks you are or you're hate
                                   filled vicious partisans (but oh so
                                   edjumikated and superior to the rest of us).
                                   You can't have it both ways.  You still
                                   blindly hate for its own sake.