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2004/5/24-25 [Health/Disease/General] UID:30399 Activity:insanely high
5/24    I love meat but I'm afraid of mad cow disease. Which one of the
        followings is the safest/most dangerous?
        hot dog:
        bulgogi:
        boshintang:......
        sukacok:....
        Philly cheese steak:
        Omaha steak:
        pho:
        Yoshinoya:
        \_ Do these dots mean safe or dangerous?  Boshintang is dog meat.
           Will you get mad cow if you eat a dog that ate mad cow beef?
           \_ I was going for safe.  Most boshintang dogs are fed on rice
              and other wierd !meat crap.  Cow is too expensive in Korea
              to waste on eatin' dogs.  Although there is no regulation
              about what the dog should be fed...
              \_ I doubt there's *any* regulations in Korea regarding dog
                 feeds.  I was just asking from scientific/technical aspect
                 out of curiosity.  But I wouldn't rule out the dogs being
                 fed left over oxtail soups and such.  Man, now I want some
                 dog meat!
        sukacok:....
        Philly cheese steak:
        Omaha steak:
        pho:
        Yoshinoya:
        \_ this is actually the wrong approach. if you want "safe" meat,
           then you need to get your meat from a ranch that has a closed
           herd, doesn't feed their cows cow-meat, etc. The closer to organic,
           the better. But free-range, no hormones, no antibiotices is
           pretty good, too. try http://www.pratherranch.com as an
           example (they have a booth at the Ferry Bldg in SF, but under
           another name). The best meats are at a premium price, but
           you're worth it. Whole Foods is also a good place to buy
           meats (not organic, but closed herds from Oregon, no hormones,
           no antibiotics).
           \_ Well, also they said mad cow.  Avoid spinal material (brains,
              pre-ground beef, etc)  Steaks are going to be generally OK.
              \_ Well, one of the reasons that mad cow goes around is that
                 in other herds, the cows are fed ground up cows which
                 contain the infected spinal material (brains, etc). This
                 is not a problem if you take the precautions listed above.
                 You can have as much good cow (any parts) that you want.
                 Another thing to keep in mind is that there is a LONG
                 incubation period for mad cow, even if you don't show
                 symptoms, you can pass the disease to others. The gov't is
                 certainly not protecting you, having refused to allow
                 additional testing so that one can prove that their herd
                 is safe. It's good to know that there are ranches like
                 prather ranch that has total control of their product:
                 grass fed, open range, closed herd. Total documented herds
                 and quality control that goes way above and beyond the
                 safeguards mandated (if you can call it that) by the gov't.
                 \_ Where are the defenders of capitalism??  I suppose you
                    also want the govt to hold your hand when you cross the
                    street, and wipe your tears when you cry like a little
                    girl.  If people really wanted to pay for safe meat,
                    there'd be a market for it and you hear about mad cow.
                    But people don't care, at least not enough to pay for
                    a better quality product.
                    \_ . . . did you pay attention to this thread at all?
                    \_ uhm hello? there already is a market for better meat and
                       enough people are willing to pay for it to create and
                       sustain that market without government interference.
                       your capitalism is right there if only you'd stop
                       trolling long enough to go get a nice steak.
                    \_ Jeez, they are already doing this. There are gov't
                       functions/services that are essential for our
                       society. Defense, and safe food and drug supply, just
                       to name a handful. Why someone would have blind faith
                       in capitalism to protect our health is beyond
                       comprehension. With Bush starving these agencies so
                       that they can't do their job, I can only hope that you
                       choke on some mad cow spine. I'd love to see you babble
                       and cry "like a little girl" - Bitch.
                       \_ and wtf are you talking about also?  capitalism *is*
                          working.  there is a market for higher quality meat.
                          it costs more to raise that way so it costs more at
                          the store.  those who don't care or don't believe in
                          mad cow can pay less for the lesser meat.  its not a
                          big secret that there is probably more infected meat
                          in the system.  its also probably not a whole lot.
                          only about 130 people died in britain over the last
                          umpteen years over it.  even if 10x that many are
                          infected but don't know it yet, 1500 total deaths
                          over a period of years wouldn't normally even show
                          on the radar.  did you or anyone else care when
                          saddam was killing about 1500 of his own people every
                          month?  nope.
                          \_ from steaks to saddam. what a moron. no, wait,
                             that's your neo-conservative rush limbaugh-esque
                             talk show radio technique that you've been dying
                             to use. bravo for you.
                          \_ Read "The Food Revolution" by John Robbins to
                             see what your wonderful American capitalism has
                             done to the meat industry.  It turned me into
                             a vegetarian ...
                             \_ Like anything else, if you want quality then
                                you have to pay for it. I eat beef much less
                                often, but pay more for it when I do. Prime,
                                aged, organic, free-range with no hormones.
                                This only exists because of capitalism, but
                                you won't get it on a bun for $0.99.
                                \_ The meat industry has little to do with
                                   true capitalism.  Massively subsidized
                                   in every which way, if the true costs
                                   were included a hamburger would probably
                                   cost $50.
                                   \_ The existence of cuts of meat like
                                      Kobe steak is because of true
                                      capitalism. You would never have
                                      seen such meat in Soviet Russia.
                                      \_ In Soviet Russia, steak cuts YOU!
                \_ You're slightly wrong. Cows are not being fed reprocessed
                   remrants of other cows in the US any more although they're
                   still fed reprocessed remrants of other animals.
        \_ Steaks should be safe and anything that doesn't contain brains or
           nervous system tissue. Burgers are the least safe since you
           generally don't know how much they have put ground beef in there
           and how much fat and other junk.
           \_ well, have you ever wondered why they pump cows full of
              antibiotics and hormones and shit like that? it's because they
              are packed together living like sardines. one sick cow can
              infect a whole herd. yes, yer eating sick cows, and cow meat
              full of antibiotics and hormones. it's assembly-line meat
              productio. yum, yum. it ends up in milk, too. and kids drink
              a lot of milk and eat lots of happy meals. then they grow up
              to be morons at Cal, especially on the motd.
              \_ Go Bears!
           \_ It was recently shown that properly-processed lamb meat DOES
              contain scrapie protein (probably due to nerves in muscle tissue)
              Though this research does not prove mad cows have BSE proteins
              in their muscle, it does throw some water on the theory that
              steaks are safe.
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