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2004/5/20 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:30323 Activity:very high
5/20    On the Nick Berg video - some of their points seem valid, but I
        find it hard to believe the whole thing was a conspiracy.  What
        gives? http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/5/15/22827/0477
        Is this a known wacko site?
        \_ I agree with you.  I can refute nearly every one of the first 14
           "suspicious circumstances", and then I got tired.  And I'm a
           liberal.
           \_ The low 30s are the only things that sounded somewhat plausible.
              Fat arabs?  White guys?  Left hand to mouth?  Why the jumpsuit?
              Why would the FBI step in and say to the family "you can't see
              the body"?  I'm not saying his mother would want to, but it's
              the family's call.  The rest was too far out there.
              \_ Nobody's going to refute this?
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Politics The video tape and circumstances of the killing of Nick Berg seem fishier and fishier. This article summarizes and lists 50 anomalies around Berg and his death. Summary A large number of anomalies surround the life and death of Nicholas Berg. A Jewish man, 26 years of age and a US Citizen, he traveled alone in Iraq. Family and friends described Berg as an adventurer, high spirited and intelligent. Washington Post report notes, "Berg was a weight lifting enthusiast and amateur comedian who had traveled abroad to help people improve their lives. Among his trips was a visit to the West African country of Ghana, where he taught villagers to make bricks and returned emaciated because he gave away most of his food." Berg visited Iraq from December, 2003, to January, 2004, and then again starting March 14, 2004. Berg was purportedly looking for electrical contracting work building radio towers. He could not find work, though there was reportedly plenty. On March 24, Iraqi officials arrested Berg at a checkpoint in Mosul and jailed him, because of his Jewish last name and the Israeli stamp in his passport. ") On April 05, 2004, the Bergs filed suit in federal court in Philadelphia, contending that their son was being held illegally by the US military in Iraq. On Saturday, May 8, Berg's body was found outside of Baghdad on a highway overpass. On May 11, 2004, a video of Nick Berg's execution, seemingly by beheading, was posted on the Muntada al-Ansar website, which is now offline. There are conflicting reports about Berg's whereabouts in Iraq. According to an email to the Berg family from Beth A Payne, a US consular officer in Iraq, the US military were holding Berg. In contrast, the Telegraph article above notes, "Dan Senor, spokesman for the US-led coalition in Iraq, insisted Mr Berg was arrested and held by Iraqi police." The timeline of Berg's captivity and the timing of the release of the video are suspicious. If Payne was correct, why did the US military hold Nick Berg for two weeks? The video of the killing has many flaws including problems with time skips, audio dubbing, and the characteristics, appearance and speech of Berg and the killers. People from Middle Eastern cultures believe that Middle Eastern people were not involved in this video, based on the mannerisms, accents, behavior and appearance of the killers. A close inspection of the video suggests that Westerners may have been involved. For a number of reasons, it does not appear that the Jordanian terrorist Abu Masab Al-Zaraqawi, who was voice identified by the CIA (and whose name was on the tape), was involved. He has a poorly functioning prosthetic leg and a hand tattoo, which should have been observed. The accent of the speaker in the video was not Jordanian. Why has the CIA seemingly lied about the analysis of Al-Zarqawi's voice and his role in the killing? Considering the many discrepancies and contradictions noted below, it seems possible that the Berg killing is a poorly crafted psy-ops exercise. This video was possibly constructed by US operatives to impact the extremely volatile political developments in the US and the international condemnation around the Abu Ghraib torture photos. The torture photos are mentioned in the speech in the video, though Berg may have been killed before the photos were circulated. The majority of the points below are summarized and excerpted from eight summary articles that culled points from news articles and blog posts. Blog: Berg video site list) and by reviewing various news articles. Some are weak or may turn out to be insignificant or coincidental. This is a work in progress, an early overview of discrepancies. There are too many discrepancies and contradictions to dismiss doubts about the video and the official US stories about Berg. Additional inquiry and fact checking are needed as the Berg story unfolds or, rather, unravels. Points are included on these topics: Suspicious Circumstances and Timeline; and, Berg's Previous Activities and Return of the Body Suspicious Circumstances and Timeline 1) A Jewish man and US citizen traveling alone in Iraq? Why did a private Jewish American citizen choose to wander around Iraq by himself? He also had a passport stamp from Israel - very unsafe to travel with. The FBI claim he refused an offer of help to get home (perhaps because of danger to get to airport). This suggest US authorities were concerned about more than Berg's well-being. They may have had their own suspicions about what the young American was doing in Iraq. Nick Berg's father, Michael Berg, signed an anti-war petition online and included the business name. As a result of this statement the Berg business was put on a right wing enemies list. This may have been linked to the thre visits by the FBI during Nick Berg's containment by the Iraqi Police and then presumably by (or under supervision) of the US Military. The next day he was released and left to get himself home. On April 1, Beth A Payne, the US consular officer in Iraq, sent an e-mail to the family of Nick Berg. It stated that Ms Payne had located Nick, and he was currently in custody of the US military. She wrote, "I have confirmed that your son, Nick, is being detained by the US military in Mosul. We will try to obtain additional information regarding his detention and a contact person you can communicate with directly." Either he escaped from US captors or US let him out -- with orange suit and all -- to be immediately apprehended by "terrorists" (before he had a chance to change). Or, the captors somehow came across a US military prison jumpsuit. Staff at Al-Fanar Hotel in Baghdad apparently told The Associated Press that Berg stayed there for several days until April 10. A US consul contract worker checked at the hotel on 4/14 and staff there did not remember Berg. His headless body was found near Mosul on 8 May "That's really what cost my son his life, the fact that the United States government saw fit to keep him in custody for 13 days without any of his due process or civil rights," Michael Berg said. Timing of Killing and Videotape Release 11) Berg is killed before torture photos released but video tape refers to photos? Northeast Intelligence Network) made with the video: "And the shameful pictures and the news of the evil humiliation of the Islam people men and women in Ghareb 's father prison then where the jealousy and where the zeal and where the anger about the Allah's religion and where the jealousy for the Muslims sanctities and where the revenge for the honors of Muslims and Muslims is in the crosses prisons." Given that the alleged decapitation of Berg was allegedly prompted by the first wave of torture photos, Bush could now cite 'national security' issues for withholding additional materials. Videotape of Berg, His Decapitation, and Location 15) Orange jumpsuit Berg shown in video wearing orange jumpsuit known to be of US issue. The orange jump suit "appears" to be identical to the jumpsuits used at Guantanamo. It is unlikely Berg would continue wearing a US custodial uniform if he had been released by the military as they claim. The fact he was still wearing the suit is both anomalous and suggestive. One wonders: Was there an immediate transfer of Berg from the US military to unknown persons, preventing Berg from discarding his US prison garb? If Berg were still alive at this point, with the cut starting at front of throat, blood would have been spraying everywhere. Berg's severed head, the floor, Berg's clothes, and even the hand of the 'Arab' who decapitated Berg had no visible blood on it. When the executioner holds up Berg's head immediately following what is represented as an actual decapitation of a living person, there is no significant blood flow from the neck or blood splatters showing anywhere on the executioner. It is not clear if he was moving after the time skip in the tape. While on the ground, Berg's body didn't seem move except in response to the captors movements. Although held down, Berg would have tried to instinctively wiggle and writhe away from captor's grip and use of a knife. Camera angle made it impossible to see if...