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| 2004/5/19 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:30299 Activity:very high |
5/19 I notice there is a purge/restore war going on in the latest topic.
Perhaps if the URL description were less sarcastic, it wouldn't be
purged?
\_ As long as the PD shoots straight, it's ok by me.
Why are people in LA or PA shooting into the air?
why are people anywhere shooting into the air? This
is a Darwin issue. And here's one of those distorted
half-truths, at best, where you stick in RR and Waco
where people who weren't doing anything to anyone get
murdered compared falsely to people who are in a war
zone firing hundreds of rounds into the air.
\_ Yes, two years ago. However, the CENTCOM report says that
AAA fire did come from the area (and had been since two days
before), and the responsibility lies with those who operated
the AAA guns while there were civilians in the area.
Although ground forces didn't find evidence of AAA guns or
spent shells, the report says they were probably removed
before they could get there.
http://csua.org/u/7d9
\_ Terrorists beget terrorists. Iraqi beget Iraqis. What's wrong
with preventing future terorists from coming to this world?
\_ These kind of stuff will not happen in the US because we
have laws. It happened in Iraq because there are no laws
governing what the US military can do. So what if we bombed
your wedding? Tough luck. The worst that can happen is we
offer an apology after a year long investigation. The truth
is, there are no justice when your country is occupied by
someone else. The only justice you'll get is when you drive
out the invading forces one way or the other. But we don't
care, by then we would've gotten all the oil we wanted. The
moral of the story? Don't be the weak guy. The bully is
always right. Although I do wish sometimes the police would
take the same attitude toward those fuckers in Oakland and
East Palo Alto. Just nuke their fucking house and the city
will be a better place.
\_ hmm a wedding party with 2 million dinars, sat com equipment,
and foreign passports in a safehouse. Yea...
Was the same reporter in Jenin? |
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| csua.org/u/7d9 -> www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/central/09/06/pentagon.wedding.attack/ Click here for our advertiser US blames civilian deaths in Afghanistan on ground fire From Jamie McIntyre CNN Washington Bureau WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The US military's investigation into July airstrikes that killed dozens of civilians at an Afghan wedding party blames the deaths on hostile anti-aircraft fire from the ground that provoked a US AC-130 gunship to respond. An executive summary of the investigation was released Friday by the US Central Command. weapons were fired and, as a result, an AC-130 aircraft, acting properly and in accordance with the rules, engaged the locations of those weapons. Great care was taken to strike only those sites that were actively firing that night." Peter Bergen: Getting al Qaeda to talk The report, based on US military inspections of the scene and interviews with local Afghans, says that at least 34 people were killed and about 50 wounded, fewer than the official Afghan government death toll of 48 dead and 117 wounded. But the report concludes, "an exact number will never be confirmed." Local Afghans said that US forces confused "celebratory fire" from wedding participants for hostile fire, but the US military found that several compounds in the Deh Rawod area were "positively identified" as sources of anti-aircraft artillery fire. "AAA fire had emanated from these compounds on repeated occasions over the previous two days and the source of the fires did not change," the report says. "As coalition ground and airborne forces approached the area, fire erupted from some of the compounds. By firing, these AAA batteries established that they were manned, armed and operational. Their proximity to the objectives, landing zones and blocking positions made them a threat to inbound coalition forces. Consequently, these sites were valid targets and AC-130 aircraft were directed toward them." The Pentagon has expressed regret for the civilian deaths, but the investigation stops short of admitting any fault. "While the coalition regrets the loss of innocent lives, the responsibility for that loss rests with those that knowingly directed hostile fire at coalition forces. The operators of those weapons elected to place them in civilian communities and elected to fire them at coalition forces at a time when they knew there were a significant number of civilians present." |