5/17    70k per year guys (who took lower pay and dont get raises)
        i am in similar situation, but am going to boss and telling
        him that I at least need a raise to beat inflation or else
        I am being paid less that I was last year
        \_ I'd also suggest adding other facets to your argument, so that
           you have a stronger position.  What contributions have you made,
           or skills do you have that would also merit the extra money?  Even
           if your boss does agree that you should be given a raise based
           on "inflation" how is he going to argue on your behalf to
           -his- boss (or worse) Human Resources?  --chris
        \_ I think this is on purpose. Salaries are being held in line so
           that you are taking a pay cut (over time), and ppl being hired
           are paid less (starting sal) than the .com era.
           are paid less (starting sal) than the .com era. It's better than
           having your position eliminated and/or sent overseas. Might also
           want to think about changing careers, if you are not on the mgmt
           track.
        \_ You're better off sending out your resume and taking the jump to
           $95 to $110k.  The economy is up, people are hiring, salaries are
           going up.  If you have any tech skills and can negotiate worth a
           damn and are willing to walk away from lesser offers you're good
           for the $100k range easy.  The rest of you 70k bastards should go
           get real jobs and stop fucking up the pay scales for the rest of
           us.
           \_ a $70K job which doesn't suck is way better than a $100K
              job which does.
              \_ They're mostly bitching about 70k jobs that *do* suck and
                 won't do anything about it but whine on the motd.