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5/13 Kerry shafts the unemployeed: http://tinyurl.com/35ukj \_ you're reaching, troll. \_ How precisely is this a troll? And why are there so many polemical attacks on anything criticizing Kerry? -emarkp \_ it sure sounds like the republicans tried to frame kerry for this. what do you think emarkp? \_ It's easier to just scream "troll!" and walk away then actually say anything intelligent to defend the undefendable. \_ I'll defend Kerry: It's better for him to be out campaigning than for him to be tied up in the senate by political games. \_ Then he should resign his senate seat and let someone do the job instead of getting paid not to be there, and in this case letting legislation that he's ostensibly for fail. -emarkp \_ When you're a manager and a guy who works for you is out interviewing instead of doing his job, you'll be ok with that? Please ping me when you become a manager. \_ the american people are gwbush's manager, do we call for his head every time he appears at a NASCAR game? ok i do but i am an extreme case. \_ if he's applying for a higher-level position in the same organization? Of course you support it. Or do you think the job of a manager is to make sure his staff never advances? -tom \_ what? what topic are you replying to? if this the fucked up motdedit merge 'feature' gone awry? \_ I'm replying to "When you're a manager...". "the american people..." put his post in between. -tom \_ Sure you can interview for another position in the same organization, but not if it impairs your ability to do the job you're currently holding. \_ The difference is, if one of my employees were interviewing for another job in the organization, I would take that into account in terms of scheduling tasks for him, rather than using the opportunity to play cheap, disingenuous political games. -tom \_ Do you have proof of "cheap, disingenuous political games", or is it just a conspiracy theory? \_ The Democrats had been pushing for a vote for weeks, and the Republicans bring it to a vote when Kerry has a scheduled campaign stop. It's not proof but it's pretty fishy. Don't make me dig up the congressional record to show the Dems tried to get a vote, it's reasonably well-documented in the news. \_ In other words, no proof and just a conspiracy theory. \_ The proof is prima facie. -tom \_ the american people are gwbush's manager, do we call for his head every time he appears at a NASCAR game? ok i do but i am an extreme case. \_ It IS kinda trollish. That title doesn't match the article very well. A better one would be: "Kerry ironically continues to igonre his senatorial duties, even when his vote is vital to the issues he claims to care about" or some such. -jrleek \_ It's a troll because the vote was staged. The Republicans had plenty of votes to make the bill go down, and Bush had threatened to veto it. When the GOP leadership learned Kerry would not be present for the vote, they arranged to have some R-senators change their vote so that it would fail by 1 vote. Even if Kerry had magically apeared at the last minute, Bush would still have vetoed it. A more fair title would be: "Kerry humiliated by staged vote." \_ URL proving this was staged? \_ Ding ding ding. We have a winner. \_ Not until he backs up his bold assertions. \_ It's impossible to prove that the GOP conspired to rig the vote, but the fact that the vote has been put off for weeks and then was suddenly announced just the night before, while Kerry was away, looks a little suspicous. No one can dispute the fact that if Bush vetoed it, Kerry's vote would note have mattered. Some URLs below: Newsday columnist: GOP stacks the vote to make Kerry a loser http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists ny-vpmcc133799370may13,0,7114735.column?coll=ny-news-columnists CNN: Senate rejects jobless benefits extension http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/11/kerry.vote \_ So you can't prove a god damned thing. This is just more "I HATE BUSHCO!" conspiracy theory. Thanks for clarifying that. \_ Wow! didn't know republicans are so childish. \_ Amazing that you believe this crap without so much as a misquote from some public figure. No URL. No nothing. Oh well. The moon is made of cheese, too. \_ If the Senate had done this and Bush had done that, then it wouldn't have mattered if Kerry voted or not. If Nasdaq stayed 5000, I would have been rich. I'm not rich, and the vote lost by 1, Kerry's. |
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tinyurl.com/35ukj -> www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17640-2004May11.html Democrats tried to attach the benefit to a corporate tax bill. On a 59-40 vote in the GOP-controlled Senate, they fell just shy of the 60 votes needed to overcome objections that extending the benefits violated last year's budget agreement. John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, was the only senator who missed the vote. The amendment would have offered emergency federal unemployment benefits for six months, temporarily giving 13 weeks of extra assistance to people who exhaust their state benefits -- typically 26 weeks. The unemployment rate dropped to 56 percent last month as employers added nearly 300,000 new jobs. The Labor Department has reported that payrolls have risen for eight months in a row, with almost 900,000 new jobs created so far this year, most within the last two months. Republicans seized on April's employment report as evidence that more federal unemployment benefits are not needed. "The employment picture in this country is looking up, by any measure," said Sen. Democrats said the extended benefits are needed because the economic recovery still hasn't replaced 15 million jobs lost since President Bush took office. "Keep our social compact and extend these needed unemployment benefits," said Sen. Democrats also tried in February to extend unemployment benefits. That effort, too, failed narrowly, although it had the support of 12 Republicans from states hit hard by layoffs. |
www.newsday.com/news/columnists -> www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ Martin Johnson: Whatever her setting, Morley makes it work When I got to Makor, the immaculate basement venue near Lincoln Center, last Monday, I couldn't have been happier with the setup. At one end of the bar was a television with the Nets game on, and at the other end, behind a screen, you could hear a band finishing its sound check. Ed Lowe: Hey kids, it all counts Gerilyn Coccia of Wantagh and I sat side-by-side in her office, reviewing whatever I might have planned to say to the 700 sophomores who soon would gather in the auditorium of St. Francis Prep in Fresh Meadows for an assembly about community service Wednesday. Pit Stop: Vintage cars, airplane at Concours d'Elegance Tail fins on land and boats in the water are slated for this year's annual Greenwich Concours d'Elegance, June5-6 at Roger Sherman Baldwin Park in Greenwich, Conn. And if boats and cars aren't enough, throw in some vintage motorcycles and a 1927 rebuilt DeHavilland Tiger Moth aircraft. Auto Doc: Chrysler 300 warranty should ease worries DEAR DOCTOR: I've been reading a lot on the new Chrysler 300. Did Chrysler ever find a fix for the troublesome transmission? |
www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/11/kerry.vote -> www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/05/11/kerry.vote/ John Kerry speaks Tuesday at a fund-raising luncheon in Louisville, Kentucky. ON CNN TV Stay with CNN-USA for updates, analysis and perspective on the images of Iraqi prisoner abuse newly seen by members of both houses of Congress. more video VIDEO CNN's Jeff Greenfield thinks outside the box for a John Kerry running mate. premium content PLAY VIDEO CNN's Judy Woodruff on Kerry blasting Bush on health-care costs. WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Senate rejected by one vote Tuesday a proposal to extend unemployment benefits to jobless Americans, and the vote quickly became an issue in the presidential campaign. President Bush's re-election campaign said Kerry was "too busy playing politics" to do his job. But Democrats shot back that Republicans in the Senate -- most of whom opposed the measure -- engineered Tuesday's vote to embarrass Kerry, who has publicly supported the measure to extend unemployment insurance for an additional 13 weeks for those who have already exhausted their benefits. "John Kerry has fought again and again to extend unemployment benefits for workers left behind in the Bush economy," said Kerry campaign spokesman David Wade. "The reason we haven't succeeded is because George Bush opposes extending unemployment insurance, and so do his allies." The proposal to extend benefits was offered by Democrats as an amendment to a corporate tax bill. Senators voted 59-40 in favor of the measure -- but that was one vote short of the 60 needed to win the procedural vote under Senate rules. "Last month, John Kerry was pushing for the extension of unemployment benefits. Today, he had the chance to actually vote on that question but was too busy playing politics when he would have made the difference in the Senate," said Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt. "John Kerry's rhetoric on the campaign trail is hiding a long list of missed votes and empty promises on the issues he claims are priorities." But a spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-South Dakota, charged that Republicans engineered the vote to embarrass Kerry, suggesting that if he had been on hand Tuesday to vote for it, Republicans would have persuaded one of the 11 GOP senators who voted for the measure to change sides, killing it anyway. Eleven Republicans sided with the Democrats in favor of the measure; Zell Miller of Georgia, sided with most of the Republicans who opposed it. The 11 Senate Republicans who supported the benefits extension were John McCain of Arizona; Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina. CNN's Mike Roselli and Steve Turnham contributed to this report. |