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5/13    Crap!  Global Cooling!
        http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA388.html
        \_ Crap! A right-wing think tank position paper posing as science!
           \_ Crap! They have backed up info, what have you got?
              \_ What they have is selective citation of articles
                 to force a statement they want to hear out of research that
                 said something else. This is the right wing noise machine at
                 work. It is a relatively efficient conversion of money into
                 flim flam. -- ulysses
              \_ why are you posting this page from 2/2002 like it's news?
                 And did you actually read the Science article?  It says:
                "the positive imbalance [ice being added to the sheet]
                is driven not by climate-related changes in
                accumulation or melt, but rather by the internal
                ice-stream dynamics that led to the stoppage of Ice Stream C."
                The article is about how ice flows, not climate change.  -tom
                  \_ How do you separate the two??
                     \_ Clearly you didn't read the article, or else you
                        didn't understand it.  -tom
        \_ Global Dimming!
           http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/13/science/13DARK.html
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National Policy Analysis Logo # 388 February 2002 New Research Indicates the Earth May Be Cooling by Amy Ridenour After a decade of warnings that the Earth's temperature may be rapidly warming, and that this supposed warming may result in a surge of catastrophic flooding and lethal storms, it now appears that we may be in for global cooling instead. The mammoth west Antarctic ice sheet, which contains enough water to lift the world's sea levels by 20 feet, isn't melting after all. Doran says cooling temperature not only is reducing the amount of fresh water feeding into Antarctica's lakes, but it's also making the surface ice thicker so plankton that use sunlight for energy are getting less sunlight. And that, he says, is bad news for the life forms that depend on plankton for food. "The ecosystem would continue to diminish, and eventually it would essentially go into a deep sleep - like a freeze-dried ecosystem," Doran said in a January 21 interview with Richard Harris, a science reporter for National Public Radio4 Doran noted that only a few years ago the National Science Foundation was seriously considering moving its campsites away from lakeshores to escape higher lake levels caused by the melting water. "We went into this project with the idea that global warming was going to hit us any time now, and we kept waiting for the warm summers to come and they never came," Doran said. "It just kept getting colder and colder, and that's the story." The new Antarctica studies show just how prescient the Bush Administration was last year when it announced it was would not send the 1997 Kyoto Treaty to the Senate for ratification. Supporters of Kyoto - including most environmental groups and former presidential candidate Al Gore - have argued that the Earth's temperature will increase by up to eight degrees over the next century and that this warming will unleash a chain reaction of environmental disasters. A global warming fact sheet circulated by the National Resources Defense Council indulges in some particularly heated rhetoric, direly predicting that: "Sea levels will rise, flooding coastal areas. The new Antarctica studies ought to pound the final nails into Kyoto's coffin. It's ironic that two studies suggesting that a new Ice Age may be underway may end the global warming debate. Many of the environmental groups championing the global warming theory were zealous proponents of a global freezing theory in the 1970s. These groups then warned that a barren, ice-bound Earth might, in geological terms, be imminent. " We might say the same about predictions from environmentalists.
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No one is predicting that it may soon be night all day, and some scientists theorize that the skies have brightened in the last decade as the suspected cause of global dimming, air pollution, clears up in many parts of the world. Yet the dimming trend noticed by a handful of scientists 20 years ago but dismissed then as unbelievable is attracting wide attention. Research on dimming and its implications for weather, water supplies and agriculture will be presented next week in Montreal at a joint meeting of American and Canadian geological groups. "There could be a big gorilla sitting on the dining table, and we didn't know about it," said Dr. Veerabhadran Ramanathan, a professor of climate and atmospheric sciences at the University of California, San Diego. James E Hansen, director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in Manhattan, said that scientists had long known that pollution particles reflected some sunlight, but that they were now realizing the magnitude of the effect. "So it's not something that, perhaps, jumps out at you as a person in the street. Satellite measurements show that the sun remains as bright as ever, but that less and less sunlight has been making it through the atmosphere to the ground. Pollution dims sunlight in two ways, scientists theorize. Some light bounces off soot particles in the air and goes back into outer space. The pollution also causes more water droplets to condense out of air, leading to thicker, darker clouds, which also block more light. For that reason, the dimming appears to be more pronounced on cloudy days than sunny ones. Some less polluted regions have had little or no dimming. The dynamics of global dimming are not completely understood. Antarctica, which would be expected to have clean air, has also dimmed. "In general, we don't really understand this thing that's going on," said Dr. Shabtai Cohen, a scientist in the Israeli Agriculture Ministry who has studied dimming for a decade. The measuring instrument, a radiometer, is simple, a black plate under a glass dome. Like asphalt in summer, the black plate turns hot as it absorbs the sun's energy. Its temperature tells the amount of sunlight that has shone on it. Since the 50's, hundreds of radiometers have been installed from the Arctic to Antarctica, dutifully recording sunshine. Atsumu Ohmura of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich sifted through the data to compare levels in different regions. Ohmura said, "I realized it's not easy to do that, because the radiation was changing over time." He recalled his reaction, saying, "I thought it is rather unbelievable." After an analysis, he was convinced that the figures were reliable and presented his findings at a scientific conference. Gerald Stanhill of the Israeli Agriculture Ministry noticed similar darkening in Israel. Stanhill, now retired and living in New York, also looked around and found dimming elsewhere. In the 90's, he wrote papers describing the phenomenon, also largely ignored. Stanhill and Cohen estimated that the worldwide dimming averaged 27 percent a decade. Not every scientist is convinced that the dimming has been that pronounced. Although radiometers are simple, they do require periodic calibration and care. Dirt on the dome blocks light, leading to erroneous indications. Also, all radiometers have been on land, leaving three-fourths of the earth to supposition. "I see some datasets that are consistent and some that aren't," Dr. Ellsworth G Dutton, who heads surface-radiation monitoring at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said. "Certainly, the magnitude of the phenomenon is in considerable question." Beate G Liepert, a research scientist at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University, has analyzed similar information and arrives at a smaller estimate of the dimming than Drs. Liepert puts it at 4 percent from 1961 to 1990, or 13 percent a decade. "It's a little bit the way you do the statistics," she said. A major set of measurements from the Indian Ocean in 1999 showed that air pollution did block significant sunlight. Following plumes of soot and other pollution, scientists measured sunlight under the plumes that was 10 percent less bright than in clear air. "I thought I was too old to be surprised by anything," said Dr. Ohmura said he hoped to finish his analysis of the numbers since 1990 by late next month or early July. "I have a very strong feeling that probably solar radiation is increasing during the last 14 years," he said. He based his hunch, he said, on a reduction in cloud cover and faster melting rates in glaciers. But clearer, sunnier days could mean bad news for global warming. Instead of cloudiness slowing rising temperatures, sunshine would be expected to accelerate the warming.