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2004/5/12 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:30185 Activity:high
5/12    Berg's father blamed the U.S. government for creating circumstances
        that led to his son's death.

        Coalition spokesman Senor said that in Iraq, Berg had no affiliation
        with the U.S. government, the coalition or "to my knowledge" any
        coalition-affiliated contractor.

        http://tinyurl.com/343s7  (yahoo news)
        \_ tourist?
           \_ http://csua.org/u/72a
              \_ Wrong url?
           \_ Mossad spy?
        \_ "On April 5, the Bergs filed suit in federal court in Philadelphia,
           contending their son was being held illegally by the U.S. military.
           The next day, Berg was released. He told his parents he had not been
           mistreated.
           Michael Berg said that in early April, his son refused a U.S. offer
           to board an outbound charter flight because he thought the travel to
           the airport through an area where attacks had occurred was too
           risky.
           State Department spokeswoman Kelly Shannon said that on April 10,
           Berg told a U.S. consular officer in Baghdad that he wanted instead
           to travel to Kuwait on his own."
           \_ "Today, coalition spokesman Dan Senor in Baghdad said Berg had
              been held by Iraqi police and questioned by the FBI three times.
              Senor said that to his knowledge Berg 'was at no time under the
              jurisdiction or detention of coalition forces,' according to the
              Associated Press."
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Services | 10 Help & FAQ it's times like these A deviation by 11 krysti-stockphotos, Apr 2, 2004 Copyright 2004 12 krysti-stockphotos 13 View deviation details | 14 Full view deviation (1280x960) 15 krysti-stockphotos Artist's Comments 16 krysti-stockphotos, deviant since Feb 6, 2004 when you realize everyone only wants my body and not my mind or anything else. Minimum Rating: None Update 20 starstrucklooser Deviant: 21 starstrucklooser ( 22 #40558725) Date: Apr 2, 2004, 10:14:02 PM i dont think thats the best thing to think. For the most part, the only time we users get a glimpse of ur mind is when ur depressing about something. Make it known that you have a voice, and you want it to be heard. I know this is my picture account, but it's true - no one wants me for my mind, just my body. Take some more meaningfulk photos of not only you, but the world around you, and then we can see you for whop you are, and not what you currently present to the world at DevArt. But the real problem is that you think someone can't like your appeareance and at the same time be able to like another aspect of yourself, which is actually a signal of insecurity, you think that cuz' you have more confidence in your looks than in your thoughts. And you wouldn't be posting at an art site, you would be posting in a forum. Well, being so skilled at writing, and having people atracted to you because of your delightfuly iluminated mind, you wouldn't be able to accept that someone could be able to get interested in your looks since your body ain't that atractive. In this chase, you wouldn't be ugly, but you would develop a low self steem pattern because you're always praised and admired because of your writing skills, no one would post a message saying: "oh you're so beautiful, I want to do kinky stuff with you" they would praise your way of writing etc etc not your body. But that wouldn't mean none of the people who like your writing, wouldn't be able to like your phisical appeareance as well So, in your chase: you're godly beautiful, with eyes so charming you can make any man your slave, a gorgeous face and moisty lips that could be watched for an entire day, a slender body and voluptuos breasts which can develop the most feral desires in the depths of my flesh, terrific hair that could be easily mistaken by silk threads, and a seductive appereance that could turn into hetero any gay. I mean, you've mistaken the fact that most men (like me), would be atracted by your looks (cuz' you're obviously like the hotest someone can be), with the posibility of them having even the slightest interest in knowing something else about you than your bra size and your phone number. I'm sorry if I wrote too much, If you find my thoughts in this topic somehow agressive, or being too imprudent, I apologize in advance, it was never my intention. I just got kinda concerned about you, having that perspective about things made me sad, cuz' I suspect that you're refusing people who likes your body and like another aspect of yourself at the same time. I mean, I got in here cuz' I saw your picture while browsing the stock photos section, that picture featured a gorgeous woman I couldn resist to watch. Now, why would I stop in here, and only look at your pictures? The only things I can substract from them would be obviously superficial, cuz' they only represent your graphical esthetic. I may use some of your photos later, so I'll tell you if I do. Have a nice day =D -- hail to the burning legion of naked people! I know there's a lot more to me than my looks, but I just can't imagine why anyone would want to know, why anyone would care, because though i'm pretty, i'm not all that talented at anything and i'm actually quite a semi-boring person at times. I know I'm pretty, I just need to find something else I can be proud of. 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