5/11 Captured on video: Iraqi insurgents shown slitting throat and removing
head of American contractor from Philadelphia using a large knife.
(Yes, this is just after he names the members of his family and his
hometown to the camera.) Nick Berg's body found on Saturday in
Baghdad. It's all over the news now.
\_ These people hate freedom.
---From Here---
\_ Bring 'em on! --Bush
\_ Ahh, they're just blowing off some steam. --Rush Limbaugh
\_ I'm more outraged by the outrage. --Senator Inhofe
\_ Ugh! this is turning ugliyer and ugliger.
\_ How long must the shit continue to hit the fan?
\_ not really, turn off the Political correctness and Iraq war
will be over in a drop of a bomb
\_ What an intelligent solution!
---To Here---
\_ To the above: you think this is some fucking joke? Or it's just
another way to take a shot at Bush for the fall election? Wake
the fuck up, you jerkoffs. It was beyond the pale. After that
shit, I no longer give a flying fuck what happens to any Iraqi.
I *did* care what happened somewhat after the 4 guys getting
shot, burned, dragged through the streets and hung from a
bridge. I *did* kind of care about the prison abuse. I no
longer care. They can turn it all to glass or use it as a huge
target pracitce range now and I won't care about it anymore.
These people don't deserve freedom, life, or anything else but
a painful gruelling death. This has gone beyond the political
and you three are too stupid and self absorbed to see it.
\- the people claiming it is "some fucking joke"
are animals like rush limbaugh. and those kinds of
comments and reactions is what is in part nodoubt fueling
this wave of reliation of al queda recruitment. let's
ask howard dean again "has intervetion in iraq made
your more of less safe?" --psb
\_ Al Qaeda listens to Rush and got pissed off so they cut
\_ "Berg's mother said the family had not seen the tape and were still
trying to decide whether to view it. They had been having trouble
accessing it because of a slow computer connection. 'I don't know
if I want to see it. It's just so awful,' Suzanne Berg said."
of this guy's head on video for his family to see and
thus this is all Rush Limbaugh's fault because he made
them do it?
\_ Well honestly I felt kind of down about that for a little
while but now I'm over it because you know, if you weren't
so fucking naive you'd understand that such episodes are
basically to be expected. I don't plan to watch that video.
It's from an al qaeda guy right? Not some joe blow Iraqi.
All the shit going on over there including the thousands
of innocent Iraqi bombing deaths and the Falluja stuff
are the semi-predictable postwar fallout so if you supported
the war you have to just grin and bear it, so to speak.
These guys trying to make money over there knowingly risk
their lives. The above comments are more a bitter I told
you so than comedy.
\_ So, since Bush and his administration have claimed to be
commited to bringing democracy, freedom and economic
prosperity to Iraq, do you think that they are lying, or
are you forced to no longer support them?
\_ Price of tea in China?
\_ You're right, this is far too awful to imagine. But you're
mistaking their bitter tone for sheer jocularity- the point
you're missing is that responsibility for this goes back
further in time, and higher up the chain of responsibility,
than Abu Ghraib. The dogs who did this to Nick Berg are
one more symptom of a COLOSSAL miscalculation.
\_ So Bush *made* them cut off his head and send a video?
\_ The appropriate response is to get the people who did it.
Unfortunately, they're all masked in the video.
\_ Using your argument, someone should nuke the US also. I am
sure our government has done similar things in the past.
\_ Using your argument all humans should be killed.
\_ Using Bush's words, "Those few individuals do not
represent the ....." Need I say more?
\_ Yes, you need to.
\_ Your nationalism is obsolete and boorish.
\_ And here we have a Citizen Of The World(c) adding his two
bits.
\_ We warned you not to let the US get involved in this
pointless and illegal war. As for the self absorbed
crack, you are the worst of the bunch. -antiwar protestor
\_ Like the pacifists in the 1930's you still
refuse to recognize evil. Militant Islam has
declared war on the West. There is no middle
ground - they wan't to kill or convert ALL of
us. Berg's decapitation was not a isolated
incident by fringe radicals; it is precisely how
Islam has been spread since its inception. If
the war is not fought now it will be fought on
the streets of America.
\_ In what way am I self absorbed? I'm not the one here
getting amusement or seeking political gain from this
man's brutal murder. It isn't too late to restore Hussein
to power. Do you think we should do that? If we could go
back in time, is that the right answer?
\_ The right answer is to not go around sticking your nose
into everyone else's business, especially when it is
not invited and not welcome. This is a totally
predictable outcome of warfare: I bet stuff like this
happens in every war. Your self absorption is your
"nuke them all, let God sort it out" philosophy.
Rather than bother yourself with trying to punish
the guilty and assist the innocent, you wish to take
the easy way out and proclaim all evil. Btw, politics
is sort of the opposite of "self absorption," almost
by defintion, unless you are a politician, perhaps.
\_ I understand your anger. It is right to feel angry when
human beings do this kind of thing to other human beings.
It's right to want to punish the ones who did this. It's
also important that we don't take out our frustration and
outrage on people who had nothing to do with this. Repeat
after me: the murder of human beings, no matter how
outrageous, does not excuse further barbarism.
\_ Time to turn sand into glass.
\_ Ugh! this is turning uglier and ugliger.
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\_ Berg's purpose for visit is unknown. He has been arrested by
FBI before. His story might be more complicated than just simple
hostage taking.
\_ His purpose in Iraq is clear from his parents' description.
He was a war supporter who helped set up electronics equipment
at the Republican National Convention in Philly in 2000.
He was trying to get more work rebuilding radio towers.
He was arrested by Iraqi police and detained by coalition
authorities. They talked to the FBI, and the FBI talked to his
parents. Which web sites have you been reading?
\_ Yeah, that's it, blame the victim. |