5/5 Donna Brzile says Kerry campaign and Democratic party lack diversity;
only white people in highest policy making positions, while Bush
campaign says its campaign extensively staffed by minorities at top
policy and stategy-setting levels. .... I find this very troubling.
When did our party become so RichWhiteMale elitist while they were
putting all these tokens out there for PR?
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040504-110932-5540r.htm
\_ duh? democratic party is white slave owner, mass minority
slavery. THe whities know what is best for the minorities
\_ Duh. Most minorities, recent immigrants, are conservative.
There's alot of "Fuck you, I already got mine!" mentality;
we could go on about the "struggling to find identity in a
new place and thus latching onto conservatism" psychology but
if you think about it; most immigrants are religious, don't
want lots of taxes, supportive of the corps that sponsored 'em,
and not educated in liberal universities.
\_ Kane has this theory that my formative moment, the moment when
I became a libertarian, happened when I first entered an
American supermarket, and saw the wall o' cheese. Oh and:
"I got my cheese -- fuck you!" -- ilyas
\_ Is this satire, or what?
\_ There was this other JFK....
\_ I find it quite odd that the Dems are STILL managing to fool
people into thinking the Dems are in any way "pro-minority."
They've always treated them like token people to be pushed
around.
\_ Actually, they've taken them for granted, and that's almost
worse. They need to wake up before some third-party candidate
sweeps them away. OTOH, anyone who thinks the GOP is on the
side of minorities is really not paying attention. If you're
a member of a minority, your best bet is to have a Dem in the
White House, but keep pressing for reform; if you're rich and
you want to stay rich, stick to the GOP.
\_ The GOP is actually quite good for high-income minority
groups (e.g. Chinese and Indians).
\_ If you want more money, yes. If you want civil rights
and more Chinese and Indians in politics or positions
of real power, no.
\_ Affirmative action. If you (non-privileged minority)
care about getting treated fairly by the government
and schools, then GOP.
\_ If the playing field were already level, I'd agree
with you. Since it is peppered with Old-Boy-
Networks, I do not.
\_ How is the playing field skewed in favor of
the Chinese or the Indian?
\_ It's not. It's skewed in favor of rich white
men.
\_ Wow, he actually stepped right into it.
You lose, on grounds of having no
connection to reality.
\_ Naw, I lose because I couldn't pass up
an obvious troll. We all lose because
the playing field is skewed.
\_ Then why is affirmative action punishing
Chinese and Indians? That's the original
question. Why the Chinese and Indian (and
other successful minority groups) should
vote GOP.
\_ We all have defining issues. As a Chinese parent,
mine is affirmative action. GOP.
\_ I would think the GOP is good for anyone that pulls
their own weight, and does not continuously see all
slights as "racism." and thinks a gun owning
society is an excellent deterrent to crime, and
that babies should not be murdered at the altar of
career.
\_ You forgot the "I worked hard for my money and deserve
to keep it" and "Everyone should be able to accomplish
as I have" (both are sort of extensions to the "pull
their own weight" slant and both are utter bullshit for
a society of more than a small town).
\_ But what about people who think the government should stay
out of their personal lives? What about people who think
a fetus isn't a baby until it has a brain at least as
developed as a slug?
\_ You pro-life fascist! It's not a baby until it has a
brain at least as developed as a mouse! Bastard.
\_ You take a poll asking which of them would have liked
to have been killed in the womb before birth, and
when abortion is exposed as a hypocritical
and selfish sham, they are defeated. Society dies
quickly when abortion is common. Since 1973 we
have had 40 million babies die in the womb, who
will step to bat and say we are better off without
them? Who among us has wished for more friends, or
is unmarried and has not wished for a spouse?
\_ Asking who would like to have been aborted is a
straw-man argument. You might as well ask who would
like to have never been concieved and then use that
result to force every women to be pregnant all the
time. I for one think we are better off having
40-million fewer babies. That's 40-million fewer
kids born to parents who weren't ready for them.
- dgies
\_ And who among us is married and wished he were
not?
\_ In other words, for idealist believers in meritocracy,
people who don't understand that the current society
still institutionalizes racism, zealots who don't think
our current system of justice protects them, and
misogynists who want women barefoot, pregnant, and in
the kitchen.
\_ But now they have careers, and the national birth
rate is at an all-time low, so we might not
have enough workers in a generation to pay for
all the government spending we have deemed critical.
\_ 1) It is not the responsibility of women to have
more babies to create more potential workers,
friends, or mates; if you want a society based
on this, then start growing babies in creches.
2) Forcing people who are not ready to be parents
to have babies will not produce well-adjusted
future citizens; you're just going to over-
populate lower-income areas and flood the
welfare system. As for adoption, there are
thousands of children waiting to be adopted;
making more babies for an already over-
whelmed system is not going to help.
\_ This is why I don't understand why GOPers try to
make fun of liberals. Why bother? They make fun
of themselves by saying inane things like this with
a straight face.
\_ Hehehe, you so funny, man-who-doesn't-understand-
irony.
\_ The best results are with fundamental theocracy. Lets start one! |
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