5/4     I don't see any 9/11 controversial posts in the motd archive
        like kill arabs, fuck Afghan, etc. I thought that's the basis for
        the motd shutdown, which really didn't happen. What's the deal?
        \_ No motd archiver yet devised keeps a perfect record, especially
           with radioactive comments that immediately get censored.
        \_ The email sofia wrote to the officers had at least a sample of the
           quotes you're looking for, and yes, they were bad.
           \_ you can look on "kais motd " around the time following
              9/11. The problem with the quotes in the email is that they were
              taken out of context. As I recall, it was basically this one
              single person making the most extreme posts and those had plenty
              of the types of responses you'd expect to such trolls. Another
              example was lifted from a sarcastic reply, you know how sometimes
              someone pretends to agree in order to show how it's absurd, well
              sofia or whoever quoted one of those. (cf. jews posting "kill the
              jews!")
           |_ post please
           \_ post please?
           \_ someone post please?
                \_ I second that
              \_ don't you need permission from sofia?
              \_ Sorry, I don't have it.  The only thing I recall is that
                 1) There were posts that violated even the Supreme Court's
                    rules for free speech-- cf. inciting violence-- to say
                    nothing of the ASUC's less permissive rules.  Furthermore,
                    they weren't being deleted as often as you might hope.
                 2) John posted a file (a snapshot of the motd) that contained
                    the worst examples he could find, which was helpful-- except
                    that it was *nothing* compared to what one might have seen if
                    they were on a constant cycle of "reload cnn.  reload bbc.
                    check motd.  channel surf.  is nytimes up?  reload latimes"
                    The posts weren't "politically incorrect".  It was hate
                    speech.  Now pretend your last name is Hussein on Sept 11
                    and figure out if you'd be concerned.
                    \_ Now what difference would it make if CSUA never existed
                       and your last name was still Hussein on that day?
                       None.
                       \_ Wait, so your argument is that since some people
                          might have been saying horrible things, the CSUA
                          should provide a forum for them?  Should the CSUA
                          allow white power posts as well?
                          \_ No my argument is that I didn't find motd
                             any more offensive than on some other "usual" days.
                             Of course, if you show me a sample of the offensive
                             material posted on that day, I'll take my words
                             back (you know I wasn't monitoring all day..)
           \_ There is plenty of name calling and offensive things said on this
              motd every day. Someone with root access just decided to be
              "politically correct" on that day and shutdown it down. I didn't
              see anything abnormally offensive on motd on that day.
              \_ And someone else can't "shutdown it down" that axe they've
                 been grinding ever since.
                 \_ Free speech is more important to some of us than others.
                    \_ Free speech?!  LOL.  This the motd.  You must be this
                       tall to ride.
                        \_ Not all that tall, unfortunately.