11/19   So how many of you Berkeley educated Bay Area sysadmins are going
        to make more than $107k this year:
           I'm not a sysadmin, and my salary is less than 107k, but it's
           worth more because of lower cost of living here: .
           I am 3133+: .
           Not me: .
        \_ How many of your Berkeley educated Bay Area non-sysadmins have a
           bigger dick than this guy?  I'm guessing all of us.
        \_ what is 3133+e, spell it out, don't use uncommon wire messages.
           you are not an alien.  If sysadmins get paid $107k/yr, should
           software engineers get paid more than that?
                \_ Depends on yer benefit to the company. If everyone
                   depends on you to keep yer servers up, might be worth
                   more than a programmer...
                   \_ Supply and demand. Good people of any type are hard to
                      find.
                \_ what makes you think a programmer is worth more than a
                   sysadmin, other than your being a programmer?  the schools
                   are cranking out good coders.  they're not making sysadmins.
                   it's also pretty hard to outsource your sysadmins to india.
                   programming is getting easier every year.  sysadmining is
                   not.
        \_ is that adjusting for public sector being 20-50% under industry?
        \_ What's special about 107K?  I guess it's your salary.  Well,
           I happen to earn more than that.