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2003/8/25 [Politics/Domestic, Reference/Military] UID:29461 Activity:nil
8/25    "U.S. Troops Use Confiscated Iraqi AK-47s"
        http://csua.org/u/40q (Yahoo News)
        Americans don't like American cars, and now Americans don't like
        American guns.  Sigh, American engineering sucks.
        \_ Okay, a couple things here.  First of all, the M4 is a lamefuck
           fad -- it's a carbine of the m16.  This means the short barrel
           reduces the velocity of the rounds below their functional
           velocity, seriously degrading the weapon's effectiveness.
           Using the M4 as point of reference for the M16a2 is misleading.
           Also, as another poster said below, what in the world are tankers
           doing patrolling on the ground?  They're taking ak's because tank
           crews aren't equipped to do infantry work, so they have to make do.
           As a last point, neither the M4 nor the M16a2 have full auto --
           so the scout talking about selecting the AK for its full auto
           capability over the M4 is deceptive.  I think this is more of a
           statement about the tanker's (lack of) training, and less about
           the weapon itself.  When it comes small arms, look at what the
           elite forces guys use as a better metric -- not some non infantry
           trained jeep jockey.
           \_ WTF??!?  I 0wn3z A11 UV U with S1L3nc3D M4A1 in CS 411 7H3
              71M3!  F*CK1NG AK47 WH0R3Z!!1!
        \_ We still have the best porn in the world! -AC
        \_ American logistics planning sucks.  I can't believe they're
           forcing tankers to do infantry work.
        \_ they say that AK47s jam less. Less than WHAT? M4? M16? Out of
           curiousity is there a benchmark for firearms like the ones for
           CPUs (SPEC INT/FLOAT), where we can look at the stopping power
           rating, jam rate, so on so forth?
           \_ They weren't quoting specs.  They were quoting soldiers, and
              the comments were based on reputation.  And yes, "less than
              the m4 or m16" is probably a decent reading of it.  And if
              you want benchmarks, try google
           \_ The AK series is just a well designed, rugged, simple to
              operate and simple to assemble machine-rifle. There are
              only half a dozen parts to the whole assembly, which is
              why it's cheap to manufacture, and easy to take care of.
              The concept is the same as  the T80 tank. However, it
              doesn't have the same stopping power as an M16.
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