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8/13 I'm nearing 30 and I want to do something more fulfilling with my
life. I've designed/coded/debugged/sysadmed/whatever my entire life
\_ Go to the Caribbean and open a bar. -John
\_ Go skydive.
and I just need a break. Has anyone joined the army/navy/marines
as late as 30? How about the reservers? Please share your experience.
\_ The military is not fulfilling. End troll.
\_ You can join the military as long as you are under age 35, so you
still have time. It depends on why you want to join. If you want to
be gung-ho and are fulfilled in life by taking other lives, consider
the special forces, ranger, seals, etc. If you want to step back
just a tad, consider the marines (note: if you leave the marines,
they'll never let you re-join). If you want to hate life, join the
army. If you like the water and staying in tight quarters with other
\_ you can't join the rangers or SF without joining the army.
men, join the navy (or ymca). If you want to do something more
cerebral, and they are picky about applicants, join the air force.
Actually, the military might be a good start in life (e.g., getting
away from home, seeing the world, picking up skills and girls), but
most ppl that join later in life have tended to want a steady job
and a pension in 20 yrs. Of course there are exceptions. If I had
to do it all over again, I'd pick the air force. - ex-army guy
\_ Lots of military people on my gf's side of the family, including
West Pointers. Most are Army and at least two made it as high
as colonel. Their advice: Air Force. Much cushier and the people
are smarter. Their bases are also in better locations. --dim
\_ But in the Air Force only one out of who knows how many
actually gets to fly a plane. The dumb ones don't get to do
so.
\_ sure but everyone gets a chance to fly Pipers and Cessnas
at the airforce flying club.
\_ Join the Reserves. If you find you really like it, you can always
go active duty. If you don't, it is only one weekend a month.
\_ 1 weekend a month in IraqIranistan.
\_ Oh yeah, I forgot. If you join the reserves with Bush
in power, you are likely to get pulled into active
duty and deployed overseas. Maybe not...
\_ And get paid less for it. Pentagon to back off pay
increase of $75 a month for "imminent danger pay" and
$150 a month in "family separation allowances."
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| csua.org/u/3xp -> sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/08/14/MN94780.DTL But the proposed cuts have stirred anger among military families and veterans' groups and even prompted an editorial attack in the Army Times, a weekly newspaper for military personnel and their families that is seldom so outspoken. Congress made the April pay increases retroactive to Oct. Imminent danger pay, given to Army, Navy, Marine and Air Force members in combat zones, was raised to $225 from $150 a month. The family separation allowance, which goes to help military families pay rent, child care or other expenses while soldiers are away, was raised from $100 a month to $250. Last month, the Pentagon sent Congress an interim budget report saying the extra $225 monthly for the two pay categories was costing about $25 million more a month, or $300 million for a full year. In its "appeals package" laying out its requests for cuts in pending congressional spending legislation, Pentagon officials recommended returning to the old, lower rates of special pay and said military experts would study the question of combat pay in coming months. WHITE HOUSE DUCKS ISSUE A White House spokesman referred questions about the administration's view on the pay cut to the Pentagon report. Military families have started hearing about the looming pay reductions, and many aren't happy. They say duty in Iraq is dangerous -- 60 Americans have died in combat- related incidents since President Bush declared an end to major combat operations in Iraq on May 1. Another 69 have been killed by disease, the heat or in accidents. Justin Schuman, had told her "it's really scary" serving in Samarra, a town about 20 miles from Saddam Hussein's ancestral hometown of Tikrit. Schuman, who like Syverson has become active in a group of military families that want service personnel pulled out of Iraq, said the pay cut possibility didn't surprise her. It's rare for the independent Army Times, which is distributed widely among Army personnel, to blast the Pentagon, the White House and the Congress. But in this instance, the paper has said in recent editorials that Congress was wrong to make the pay raises temporary, and the Pentagon is wrong to call for a rollback. On Capitol Hill, members say the issue will be taken up quickly after the summer recess when a conference committee meets to negotiate conflicting versions of the $369 billion defense appropriations bill. Ellen Tauscher, D-Walnut Creek, a member of the House Armed Services Committee. The House wants to pay more for service in those two countries than for such duties as peacekeeping in the Balkans. With the money saved, the House wants to increase the size of the active military by 6,200 troops. What won't be clear until Congress returns is whether the Pentagon will lobby against keeping the increase. The Pentagon reiterated Wednesday that its goal was for service personnel to rotate out of Iraq after a maximum of a year in that country. Units of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division, which played a major role in last March's invasion, have already come home. |
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