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| 2003/8/14 [Reference/Military, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:29344 Activity:very high |
8/13 I just found out that the US Military shifted from using lead bullets
to depleated uranium so that they can penetrate better. While lead
is pretty bad environmentally, how about depleated uranium?
\_ you're kidding about the how bad part, right?
\_ DU is bad, mmmkay http://www.iacenter.org/depleted/du.htm
\_ DEPLEATED! I mean BALEETED!
\_ DELTEATED! ...Del taco?
\_ URL? And no lead is not an environmental catastrophy. There were
200 bullets fired for every soldier killed in WWII yet I've never
seen a report about mass lead poisoning in France, Russia, or
Germany. Troll?
\_ DU decays into lead eventually, so you've got the worst of both.
\_ If it decays into lead then there's no uranium, so...?
\_ uh, the fact that it decays means it's giving off radation,
yes?
\_ Yes, it radioactively decays off its energy until each
diameter or more. Such as the out of the GAU-8 or CIWS or the
uranium atom changes to lead which is stable.
\_ And you're surrounded by all sorts of radiation from
womb to grave and somehow you survive, yes?
\_ That's not true. DU is generally used for rounds 20 mm in
diameter or more. Such as the out of the CIWS or GAU-8 or the
the main gun on a M1 tank. As for small arms, like the M-16,
there are plans to replace that with a tungsten or other non-lead
core sometime in 2008. But the standard M855 currently has
steel tip with a lead core.
http://aec.army.mil/usaec/publicaffairs/update/fall99/fall9901.htm
\_ Also, DU, having a multi-billion-year half-life, is radioactive
only in the mildest sense. Most lead used is as/more radioactive
than DU.
\_ Yes DU is mild, but surely more radioactive than lead.
\_ It's not the radioactivity that is harmful. The dust
can get into the water supply, or be inhaled, and it's
toxic-- more toxic than lead.
\_ But it's in other countries, so what?
\_ It's in other countries that our lying president and
his family can't seem to keep our military away from.
This means soldiers die, which is bad.
\_ maybe the radiation is what gave the soldiers the weird Gulf
War syndrome?
\_ It is thought to be one of many contributing factors.
\_ Good use of the passive. "It is thought". That's good.
\_ This is a very very old news. DU bullets were used even during
the Desert Storm I. I'd like also to point out that they're used
only in certain types of armor piercing weapons that are used to
destroy tanks and other armored vehicles (including the the 30mm
gun in the A-10 attack plane)
\_ nearly all munitions for M1 Abrams are DU, as well as the armor.
tomahawks are DU tipped.
\_ The Bradley fighting vehicle uses DU ammo for its autocannons.
I recently learned, much to my surprise, that a Bradley blew
up a few T-72s in the recent Iraq war, using it's guns, which
didn't seem large enough for the task...
I guess DU really is better. -- ilyas
\_ Did you know the fuel the airforce uses is incredibly toxic yet
they fly those things all over the planet? How can we let that
go on?
\_ you sound like a wife of an auto mechanic who complains
that his clothes get dirty when he is working
\_ More like coalworkers' wife and black lung. |
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| www.iacenter.org/depleted/du.htm READ METAL OF DISHONOR TO SEE WHAT IS BEHIND THE HEADLINES 19 Jan. AFTER SOLIDARITY TRIP TO IRAQ/PALESTINIANS CHARGE ISRAELI MILITARY USES DEPLETED URANIUM 25 THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE BEGINNING OF THE MILITARY INTERVENTION AGAINST IRAQ/ GULF WAR VETERANS AFECTED BY THE 'GULF WAR SYNDROME' COME TO MADRID TO SUPPORT THE CLAIM OF AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION ON 'BALKANS SYNDROME' 26 GREEK TROOPS WANT OUT OF KOSOVO Protests against DU grow in Europe 27 The NATO Syndrome Arms, Profits and Lies / 28 WHO HAS BEEN CONCEALING THE DANGERS OF DEPLETED URANIUM FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS, AND WHY? MICHEL COLLON 29 Le "Syndrome de lOtan" : armes, profits et mensonges/ Qui cache depuis dix ans les dangers de luranium appauvri et pour quels intrts? Beratung bei der NATO 37 IS THE ISRAELI MILITARY USING DEPLETED-URANIUM WEAPONS AGAINST THE PALESTINIANS? International Action Center calls for an investigation 38 GIJON, SPAIN, Nov. AND NATO GUILTY 43 Vieques emergency action alert 44 Sunday, April 30th 8PM Vieques Alert! Meeting to Respond to the Expansion of Plutonium Production 53 Time to Respond - before DOE expands Pu-238 Production for Civilian Space Program 54 Emergency Protest Actions to Stop the War Against Iraq! THREATS TO BOMB IRAQ 72 National and International Day of/Day After Bombing Emergency Response Actions 73 Ramsey Clark's Letter to the UN Regarding Latest Military Threats on Iraq 74 WHO to investigate radiation fall-out from Gulf war in Iraq 75 SAY NO TO SANCTIONS! |
| aec.army.mil/usaec/publicaffairs/update/fall99/fall9901.htm Fall 1999 Army Produces Green Bullets From Staff Reports The Army recently began producing lead-free bullets at Lake City Army Ammunition Plant in Missouri as part of a comprehensive program that will transition the military services to "green ammunition" in the 21st century. Green Bullets The copper-jacketed bullets in this test group produced at Lake City Army Ammunition Plant contain a tungsten-nylon core that replaces lead. Lake City Army Ammunition Plant will produce one million of these bullets in 1999 and is expected to gradually reach full production by 2005. The developers eventually determined that a tungsten mix had a density closest to lead and provided the accuracy and energy transfer needed for effective combat use, Mr. Two tungsten mixtures were preferable as a lead substitute, he added, to prevent the military services from relying upon sole-source procurement. He said ARDEC worked closely with the other military services from the outset of the program to determine their needs and whether the green ammunition should be used for training exclusively, or for both training and combat. The intent is to create ammunition that will be suitable for both purposes, he said. |