8/4     I am a cheap bastard who knows RF, but doesn't know jack about DSL.
        What exactly is a dsl filter?  what rolloff frequency is needed?
        can i just make a rc filter or pi filter with a pair of modular jacks,
        or is it an active filter of some kind? i already stfw'd and all anyone
        wants to tell me is where to buy one.
        \_ What are you trying to do?
           \_ I think he's trying to steal DSL off his phone line or something
              like that and his time has zero value but I'm just guessing.
              Think of Qusay's children!
              \_ no, i'm paying for dsl, and already have one filter for
                 my phone.  i just want another filter for my other phone
                 so it doesn't interfere with the dsl or cause odd noises
                 on the line.  given that i spend alot of time making rf
                 filters anyway, this filter might well take me ten minutes
                 to build if i know what frequency i'm trying to filter.
                 since a new filter is about 15 dollars, i would have to
                 value my time at 90 dollars an hour for it to not be worth
                 my time to make the filter. since i'm a grad student, my
                 time is worth considerably less than that.
                 \_ but you've already spent more than that time Sing the FW
                    and typing stuff on motd. and since you already "know RF"
                    you aren't even learning anything.
                 \_ Doesn't SBC give you like 3-4 of the filters anyway?
                    I seem to recall having many extras, send me an email
                    if you're local to Berkeley and I'll bring one in - mds