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2003/7/17-18 [Computer/HW/CPU] UID:29070 Activity:high
7/16    Looking for a lite notebook that is reasonbly powerful as well.
        Really like the company IBM X-series.  But X-series only uses
        Pentium 3 processor.  Is there any other notebook that is similiar
        in size (e.g. 13" LCD) but use a CPU which is more powerful than
        Intel P3?  I don't mind CPU being slower than Intel P4, but I
        want a notch above P3.  What kind of Transmeta / AMD / VIA CPU
        should I looking for?
        \_ Fujitsu S6120D.  Pentium M is what you want, multiply GHz by 1.5 to
           get equivalent Pentium 4 speed
           \_ By 1.5??  Let's see a URL for that.  There's nothing wrong with
              a 1.0+ ghz P3 for normal use.  If you're playing quake on it,
              the graphics subsystem will be so slow it won't matter what cpu
              is in there.
              \_ Are you kidding?  My Radeon 7500 mobile card does very well for
                 all the games I've played, including several of the recent 1st-
                 and 3rd-person games.
                 \_ Turn on all the graphics and play at hi-res where the
                    developers intended you to play then come back and say
                    that.  No, I'm not kidding.
                    \_ Yes, I do turn on all the graphics, and display at hi-res
                       (1400x1050), and play the games that way.  And?
                       \_ I asked what games you're playing.  Solitaire in 3d
                          at any resolution isn't taxing.
                          \_ No, you didn't ask.  But now that you have:
                             GTA 3, UT2k3, Enter the Matrix, Splinter Cell,
                             Warcraft 3, and a few others.
           \_ google for "centrino 1.5 multiply pentium".  The Dell Latitude
              D600 weighs 5.5 lbs., but it has a Mobility Radeon 9000.  The
              Fujitsu has the integrated graphics, so 3D games are a no-no.
              \_ 5.5 lbs?  Why don't they just strap a cpu to a brick?
                 \_ That's true.  I'll be pretty happy when I can get a 4.5
                    lb. notebook with 3D acceleration, a 15" screen, and
                    is Windows-native.  (Yes, I know about the Macs.)
              \_ url re 1.5x:  http://csua.org/u/3n9
                 \_ Nuh uh!  This is comparing Pentium-M versus the *MOBILE*
                    version of the P4 not the desktop version.  And it's more
                    like 1.25 to 1.35 except for the highest end chips where
                    yes it is about 1.5x given Intel's own charts where you
                    don't have a clue how they came to these conclusions.
                    \_ http://csua.org/u/3na
                       \_ which confirms what I said.  1.5x is only true for
                          the highest end chips and those benchmarks aren't
                          graphics oriented if that matters to the OP.
                          \_ Systems with the 1.6 GHz Pentium M's are
                             $50 more expensive than 1.4 GHz these days.
                             Graphics oriented ...
        \_ The ThinkPad X series now has the Pentium M as well, but the
           screen is 12".  The T series weighs 5 lbs. and is $$$.
                             Warcraft 3, RtCW, and a few others.
                             \_ Hmm, I did but it's not there now.  Anyway, I
                                find it hard to believe you're playing some of
                                those games at with everything on at hires and
                                getting playable frame rates.  Maybe your idea
                                of playable is different from mine.
                                \_ 40-60 fps is good enough for me.
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csua.org/u/3n9 -> www.upenn.edu/computing/provider/docs/centrinoprovider.html
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