Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 29038
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2003/7/15 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:29038 Activity:nil
7/14    Crisis continues: US may abolish H1-B visa
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/945304/posts?page=1,50
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Often described as a onetrick pony and a single-issue Congressman, Tancredo has campaigned relentlessly against both illegal and legal immigration. But as chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus now, his 15-line Bill aimed at eliminating all visas under H1-B category introduced this week goes further than he has done before at time when job loss in the United States has roused sentiments against white collar immigration. This guy may be writing from India, but he sure has that Washington Post, New York Times, the leftistist media writing style down. We must only allow Immigration by those who cannot support themselves and will therefore vote for the democRAT party. Why waste our time allowing people to come to this country who will pay taxes, obey the law, support themselves, and probably vote republican. This program was designed to bring high tech workers when there was a shortage during the bubble. We have high tech workers sitting at home drawing unemployment. End H1-B visas and tax software that is outsourced offshore as the "foreign-made goods" that it is. Most go back to India with their training and contracts and start businesses to compete with US Companies. I have worked in the hi tech industry for 20 years and have seen the effect of this program over that period. In my opinion it is a cynical and successful way that hi tech companies have used to drive down wages, break the market for highly skilled employees, and ultimately sabotage one of the only high wage industries left in the United States. Clearly, with Oregon facing the highest in the nation rates of unemployment we do not need more Indian and Chinese programmers imported into our state. But that is exactly what big companies like Intel continue to insist we must do. Please do the right thing and vote no on the continuation of the H1B program and other visa programs used to bring in high tech workers. OTOH, you are absolutely correct - these folks are very smart, have a strong work ethic and good family values (at least those that I've met). And, speaking specifically of Indian H-1B's, there is another advantage - I think most of them are Hindu and are a way of bonding the US and India together. People from societies who support the war on Islamicist terrorism - OK. People from societies who don't - go to the back of the line. Most go back to India with their training and contracts and start businesses to compete with US Companies. Well, I have seen many who do get citizenship (sponsored by the companies they work for here). Obviously Mr Tancredo is chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus . Don't get me wrong, I work in IT and don't necessarily benefit by their being here, but they are a different class than most. I am against the open borders we have now, but lets not set our sights only on immigrants who are self supporting, let's make sure that we go after the real bad ones instead of wasting our time on these guys and gals. H1Bs are bad enough in an economy such as this one, but did you hear about that guy that worked for Bank of America? They actually had him train his replacement and then let him go. He was wrong for doing that, but the very next day after reading the story, I closed all of my accounts with BoA and I'm in the process of selling a truck that they hold the paper on. I will never do business with them again, and I've done a bunch in the past. I've had a bunch myself who've gone on to become good taxpaying citizens - conservative, too. All were looking for freedom and opportunity here, just like my ancestors, and, unlike my ancestors, they had advanced degrees in math and science. Shocking, though, having someone train their replacement. Other interpretations define capitalism as a system based on business, money, and/or greed. It encompases an individuals right to make choices, an individuals right to pursue his or her interests, and an individuals right to opportunity. This opportunity can be found in few other economic systems. Capitalism alllows a the market and price mechanism to allocate resources. Capitalism stands against centralized government control of this. In my opinion we should pursue capitalism as a method of pursuing freedom. Capitalism is an economic system based on individual rights. It is the only system which accounts for the individuals actions and automatically incorporates them into its economic functions. It is impossible to act in a way that is not in a person's own self interest. The reasoning is that by acting, a person chooses him/herself to act in this certain manner. Therefore this manner of action is in pursuit of self interest. A computer is a substitute for a writing pad (as are stone tablets and letters scratched in dirt). Some substitutes are closely related while others aren't. Where a substitute is situated affects the dealings of other goods in the free market. In the occurance of a shortage of a certain good, the consumer is naturally inclined to seek out a cheaper substitute for that good. Concept 3: Prices are set at equilibrium by natural forces in the economy. This simple concept of supply and demand is a result of actions taken by businesses, buyers, sellers, and competitors as well as product scarcity. Due to these concepts, economies cannot be coordinated or enforced by a government or leader as socialist countries have tried. Capitalism, however, is set into action by human nature. Natural forces occur to manage an economy solely based on the actions of the individual. In other words, Capitalism does by itself what socialism and communism have to (or attempt to) enforce and regulate. While the leftist experiments with failed ideas such as socialism, the conservative tends to support the capitalist economy, a method which, though flawed, has withstood the tests of time. CAPITALIST (Marx, Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin would have loved the Communication Workers of America) 154 Post Reply | 155 Private Reply | 156 To 22 | 157 View Replies To: w1andsodidwe H1B visa staus is guest worker status not imigrant status. These people are here to perform jobs that Americans would normally fill in order to employ an H1B visa holder a corporation must provide a sworn statement that there is no American capable of filling the job at the prevailing wage and that they will be paying the H1B visa holder the prevailing wage. Thus corporations routinely cut their labor cost in half by bringing in H1B visa holders while technical and engineering people are unemployed in large numbers. If we enforced our H1B visa laws we would have a lot of corporate executives in federal prison for perjury. Time for a letter to your congress critters supporting this proposal. Wrong this is about destroying America through guest workers who have no immigration status. But what is the gain if the the workers replaced by them go on welfare or vote Democrat? Pole 190 Post Reply | 191 Private Reply | 192 To 7 | 193 View Replies To: Heatseeker "These folks (imported foreign nationals) are very smart, have a strong work ethic and good family values". American techie workers also are very smart, have strong work ethics and good family values. Yet, today, they have to go on unemployment to keep family food on the table while they see the good jobs go to foreigners by government design in cahoots with greedy major corporations. Do you have any idea how many freepers, for instance, have been laid off in these past couple years in the fields under discussion? 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