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2003/7/14-15 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:29024 Activity:high
7/13    http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=424237
        It's rare that a Middle East story is funny.
        \_ you have a weird sense of humor.  damn, i've been
        \_ you have a weird sense of humor.  damn, I've been
           trolled!  I hate you.  Where is this palestinian state?
           Sweden?
                \_ It was funny.  But are you really that ignorant?
                   \_ He's trolling.  Don't be so naive.
                \_ You're not trolled.  I really thought it was funny.  -op
                \_ They could move it to the Jewish Autonomous Republic
                   (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Republic
                   Since Jews aren't living there anyways.
        \_ a similar poll shows that 80% of the Israelis believe that a
           peace negotiation would work while 75% of the Palestinians
           believe that a negotiation will work IFF **every single one of
           the Israelis** leave Israel. Go figure.
           \_ Now, *this* is a troll.
           \_ At least the Palestinians are asking for something reasonable.
              They just want their land back and to restore their country to
              what it was before it was stolen.
              \_ please explain why, by your logic, we should not return
                 california to mexico.  or do you think that's a good idea
                 also?
                 \_ and Mexico to all those Native Americans.
                 \_ yes.  everyone should go back to where they came from.
                    what's wrong with restoring the world to the way it was
                    before white people over ran everyone?
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And 677 since peace broke out Mob attacks pollsters who found few Palestinians want their old homes in what is now Israel By Eric Silver in Jerusalem 14 July 2003 A mob of about 100 Palestinian refugees stormed the office of a Ramallah polling organisation yesterday to stop it publishing a survey showing that five times as many refugees would prefer to settle permanently in a Palestinian state than return to their old homes in what is now Israel. Independent Portfolio Article This article is available in full to Independent Portfolio subscribers. Otherwise, your options are: 1 for 24 hours' access to this article;
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It has an area of 35,700 km (13,895 mi) and a population of approximately 212,000 ( 20 1995), of which only about 2 21 percent is 22 Jewish: the remainder is 23 Russian (approximately 85 percent), 24 Ukrainian, and 25 Korean. The economy is based on mining ( 27 gold, 28 tin, 29 iron, and 30 graphite), 31 lumber, limited 32 agriculture, and 33 light manufacturing (mainly 34 textiles and 35 food processing). The Jewish 42 Autonomous Republic was founded in 43 1928 as the 44 Jewish National District. It was the result of 45 Vladimir Lenin's nationality policy, by which each of the national groups that formed the 46 Soviet Union would receive a territory in which to pursue cultural autonomy in a socialist framework. In that sense, it was also a response to two supposed threats to the Soviet state: 47 Judaism, which ran counter to official 48 state atheism; The idea was to create a new Soviet Zion, where a proletarian 51 Jewish culture could be developed. Stalin's theory on the 54 National Question held that a group could only be a nation if they had a territory and since there was no Jewish territory, per se, the Jews were not a nation and did not have national rights. Jewish Communists argued that the way to solve this ideological dilemma was by creating a Jewish territory, hence the ideological motivation for the Jewish Autonomous Oblast. Politically, it was also considered desirable to create a Soviet Jewish 55 homeland as an ideological alternative to 56 Zionism and the theory put forward by Socialist Zionists such as 57 Ber Borochov that the Jewish Question could be resolved by creating a Jewish territory in 58 Palestine. Thus Birobidzhan was important for propaganda purposes as an argument against Zionism which was a rival ideology to 59 Marxism among 60 left-wing Jews. The propaganda impact was so effective that several thousand Jews immigrated to Birobidzhan from outside of the Soviet Union, including several hundred from 61 Palestine who had become disillusioned with the Zionist experience. With hindsight, it can be said that the experiment was doomed from the start. Another important goal of the Birobidzhan project was to increase settlement in the remote Soviet Far East, especially along the vulnerable border with China. In 1928, there was virtually no settlement in the area, while Jews had deep roots in the western half of the Soviet Union, in 62 Ukraine, 63 Belorussia and Russia proper. In fact, there had initially been proposals to create a Jewish Soviet Republic in the 64 Crimea or in part of the 65 Ukraine but these were rejected because of fears of antagonising non-Jews in those regions. The geography and climate of Birobidzhan were harsh, and any new settlers would have to build their lives from scratch. Some have even claimed that 66 Stalin was also motivated by 67 anti-Semitism in selecting Birobidzhan: he wanted to keep the Jews as far away from the centers of power of possible. To his credit, however, it must be said that the Ukrainians and 68 Crimeans were reluctant to have a Jewish national home carved out of their territory, even though most Soviet Jews lived there, and there were very few alternative territories without rival national claims to them. Despite the hardships, a trickle of Jewish settlers arrived. By the 69 1930s the Jewish National District was promoted to the status of an 70 Autonomous Region and a massive propaganda campaign was underway to induce more Jewish settlers to move there. Some of these incorporated the standard Soviet propaganda tools of the era, and included posters and Yiddish-language novels describing a socialist utopia there. In one instance, leaflets promoting Birobidzhan were dropped from an airplane over a Jewish neighborhood in 71 Belorussia. In another instance, a government-produced Yiddish film called Seekers of Happiness told the story of a Jewish family that fled the 72 Depression in the 73 United States to make a new life for itself in Birobidzhan. As the Jewish population grew, so did the impact of 74 Yiddish culture on the region. A Yiddish newspaper, Der Birobidzhaner Shtern (Birobidzhaner SHtern, "Star of Birobidzhan"), was established; At the same time, some efforts were also made to Russify Yiddish culture: the most notable of these was an attempt to replace the 77 Hebrew alphabet used for writing Yiddish with the 78 Cyrillic one. The Birobidzhan experiment ground to a halt in the mid-1930s, during Stalin's first campaign of purges. Jewish leaders were arrested and executed, and Yiddish schools were shut down. Shortly after this, 79 World War II brought concerted efforts to bring Jews east to an abrupt end. There was a slight revival in the Birobidzhan idea after the war as a potential home for Jewish 80 refugees. During that time, the Jewish population of the region peaked at almost one-third of the total. Efforts in this direction ended, however, with the 81 Doctors' plot, the establishment of 82 Israel as a Jewish state, and Stalin's second wave of purges shortly before his death. Once again, the Jewish leadership was arrested and efforts were made to stamp out Yiddish culture--even the 83 Judaica collection in the local library was burned. In the ensuing years the idea of an autonomous Jewish region in the Soviet Union was all but forgotten. 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