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| 2003/6/29-30 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:28860 Activity:high |
6/28 An interesting article, first posted by a racist half-wit, about
a British professor's well-intentioned but misguided attempt to
bring light to human rights abuses in the Israeli-Palestinian
conflict: http://csua.org/u/3fc
\_ I doubt it was really posted by a racist half-wit. it was probably
a bored troll working overtime who didn't bother to read the text
but saw an inflamatory-sounding headline somewhere on the net,
added an even more inflamatory-sounding tagline, and posted it
to get people riled up. By changing the tagline, you might have
ruined their one chance for enterntainment while trapped in their
cubicle on a sunday. or maybe it really was a racist half-wit.
\_ The human rights abuses? You mean where the palestinians are
raising their own children to walk into discos, hotels, and pizza
\- so stipulating what you write above is true, what
do you think it says when "parents are raising their
children to walk into discos and blow themselves up"
that the palestianian parents dont care about their
kids? does it suggest to you that the conditions they
are living under and their long terms prospects are
just fine? i'm not suggesting suicide bombing is
necessarily a justified thing to do even under the
circumstances, but it does suggest that the circumstances
are not pleasant. i dont buy the "oh anyone can be
manipulated into anything" view or that israel has
nothing to do with their conditions. --psb
\_ psb, I am disappointed... -- ex psb fan
\- gee, imagine if said what i really think. --psb
parlors and blow up themselves and as many civilians as possible?
Or did you mean the part where the palestinians and most of the
rest of the arabs world both at the government and street level
is still unwilling to acknowledge Israel has a right to exist and
still intends genocide? Or did you mean the part where others arabs
such as in Jordan have killed literally 100x as many palestinians
than Israel has and usually in a mass killing of tens of thousands
at a time that doesn't get reported in the western press? Or maybe
one of the other zillion atrocities committed by arabs on arabs
over the last several decades? Help me out, which of these human
rights abuses was the oxford professor trying to bring light to
with his very private, very illegal, and very racist email?
\- you know i suspect this guy made a mistake "putting it
in writing" but i think there is a lot of positive
selection [in the sense of selecting for certain people
rather than selectign against] under the covers ... surely
you've seen the romanian/indian/taiwanese/israeli prof
with 75% r/i/t/i students. i'm sure there is similar
antipathy among indian profs towards pakistani students,
probably somethink like that among the chinese, maybe
with japanese and korea etc. again this isnt exculpatory
but suggests it isnt extraordinary ... except maybe for
the jewish crowd suggesting this is unique persecution.
--psb
\_ We all know the poor poor palestinians, being the victims,
are entitled to send their teen children to blow themselves up.
Its an inalienable natural right, like sodomy. Forget that the
the PLO and most of the Arab world were Soviet client states
for 45 of the past the 55 years, that Yasser is a communist...
whats the point, people conveniently ignore
uncomfortable facts. |
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| csua.org/u/3fc -> www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/06/29/noxf29.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/06/29/ixportal.html Andrew Wilkie, the Nuffield professor of pathology and a fellow of Pembroke College, is under investigation after telling Amit Duvshani, a student at Tel Aviv university, that he and many other British academics were not prepared to take on Israelis because of the "gross human rights abuses" he claims that they inflict on Palestinians. Prof Wilkie made the comments after Mr Duvshani, 26, wrote to him requesting the opportunity to work in Prof Wilkie's laboratory towards a PhD thesis. Mr Duvshani, who is in the last months of a master's degree in molecular biology, included a CV detailing his academic and outside experience, including his mandatory three-year national service in the Israeli army. In a reply sent by email on June 23, Prof Wilkie wrote: "Thank you for contacting me, but I don't think this would work. I have a huge problem with the way that the Israelis take the moral high ground from their appalling treatment in the Holocaust, and then inflict gross human rights abuses on the Palestinians because they the Palestinians wish to live in their own country. Speaking from his home in Tel Aviv, he said: "I was appalled that such a distinguished man could think something like that. I sent similar applications all round Europe and did not have another response like that. He said, however, that he was unlikely to accept any position offered by Oxford University. Mr Duvshani had no further contact from Prof Wilkie or from the university after receiving the email. When this newspaper contacted the university on Friday, however, a spokesman said that she was aware of the email following a complaint from academics who had seen it. That evening, the university issued a statement from Prof Wilkie apologising to Mr Duvshani and making clear that he was not speaking on behalf of Oxford. Speaking from his home in Oxfordshire last night, Prof Wilkie apologised "unreservedly" for his actions. I expressed personally-held opinions that have nothing to do with Oxford University and they should not have been expressed in that manner. When asked if he would look again at the student's application for a PhD, he replied "absolutely" and added that he "entirely accepted" the university's equal opportunities and race equality policies. A series of attempts have been made to isolate Israeli scholars in protest at their country's operations in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. In Britain, calls for an academic boycott have been led by Steven Rose, an Open University professor. Last year the University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology was forced to hold an inquiry after The Sunday Telegraph revealed that Mona Baker, a professor, had sacked two Israeli academics from the editorial boards of two journals because of their nationality. A Umist inquiry found that Prof Baker had not acted improperly under its rules because the journals she owns were not connected to the university. |