6/28    Do all 2point driving offenses (in CA) stay on the record for 7years?
        The CA Driving handbook is a little ambiguous, and couldn't find the
        relevant section in the CA vehicle code. Is there a list of 36month
        versus 7 year ones?
        \_ does going 100+ stay for 3 or 7 years?
           \_ 2 points, so stays on record for 7 years
        \_ You are a good driver if you only have 1 point in 3 years. An
           injury accident (2 points) should only count against you for
           3 years no matter how long it stays on your record.
           \_ No.
              \_ Yes. http://www.aaa-calif.com/insurance/auto/discount.asp#gdd
                 Whether it stays on your record is not relevant for purposes
                 of insurance rates. It may be relevant for other purposes.
                 \_ no. nobody mentioned insurance.
                    \_ I did. "You are a good driver if..." So in 3 years
                       the OP doesn't have to sweat it if he stays clean.
                       The 7 years is not relevant. Maybe the OP can mention
                       if insurance is a concern for him.
                       \_ The 7 years matters to the DMV and the State of
                          California.  Get too many points and they'll pull
                          your license and then you're fucked.
        \_ STFW:
           2 points stay for 7 years:
           http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/dl_info.htm#2508
           Common violations and points:
           http://www.dmv.ca.gov/dl/vioptct.htm
                \_ It doesn't specifically say that all 2point offenses
                   stay for 7 years. It says most violations such as foo,
                   bar, are 2 points and stay for 7 years.
                   \_ nevertheless, it does.
                   \_ what specific violation are you interested in?
                        \_ going 100+
                   \_ i think you are reading too much into the informal
                      language on the dmv site. Read it as a normal dumb
                      common-sense citizen, not as an overly-educated
                      Vehicle Code section 1808. As for how your insurance
                      co treats it -- ask them.
                      UCB alum.  2 points means 7 years on your record.
                      So, sorry, your 100mph isnt much different from
                      reckless driving -- you dont get a free pass.
                      Vehicle Code section 1808.
                      By the way, my cousin, non-citizen, was thrown in
                      jail when he tried to re-enter the USA after visiting
                      Hong Kong for chinese new year in Feb. because a 100mph+
                      ticket was issued to him 8+ years ago, but the
                      new post-9/11 federal database still had it, so dont
                      think such a ticket wont haunt you beyond 7 years.
                      He had cleared the ticket when he first got it, but
                      the Feds didn't care -- all they saw was that he
                      had a "record", so they detained him for almost 2 months
                      \_ The Feds are systematically destroying Americas
                         ability to conduct serious scietific collaborations
                         with this bullshit.  There's a great rant about this
                         in the first few pages of Science this week. basically,
                         if we continue down the path of treating all foreigners
                         with suspiscion, even tenured faculty at top
                         universities, we will loose our position as the
                         uncontested scientific wold leader.  That would
                         be very very bad.  This is a very serious threat
                         to national security, and unfortunately, it comes
                         not from enemies, but from well-meaning but totally
                         moronic officials.  As non-moronic Americans, it
                         is our responsibilty to fight this now, before
                         it's too late.
                         \_ If we don't let foreign scientists in without
                            scrutiny how will the Chinese ever catch up?  We'd
                            have to open a whole new Federal branch to email
                            all the stuff!  You know how expensive a network
                            pipe over the Pacific Ocean is?  Or satellite
                            time in bulk?  They'll have to raise taxes to
                            afford this new branch of government.  I say let
                            them all in and make them pay for their own
                            espionage costs!
                            \_ random harassment!=scrutiny.  you don't
                               know what the fuck you're talking about.
                      \_ Can you email me? I have questions about this.
                                -sagarwal
        \_ If you were stupid enough not only to drive 100+ but to get caught
           doing it you're too stupid to worry about points; you're too stupid
           to drive; you're too stupid to continue living.  Please stay off
           the roads... and the sidewalks... and the grass.
           \_ but by all means keep posting to the motd.