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6/11 The Open Group sues Apple over their use of the word UNIX. Apple claims
that UNIX is a generic term: http://news.com.com/2100-1016-1015814.html
Are Unix and Linux coming up in the world?
\_ Rapture! You started another linux vs. freebsd slapfight!
\_ On a vaguely related note: when did http://news.com become http://news.com.com?
\_ cnet has had http://com.com forever and a day... I tried to register
it about 8 years ago...
\_ 8 years ago? you got to the net a little late, eh?
\_ Unix has been the world since before you had PH#1. Linux is crap.
There's only 2 reasons Linux even exists today: AT&T timing and
price. It's hard to compete with free crap when the alternatives
cost so much in bad times. Beware the Deathstar.
\_ What is PH#1? Why isn't BSD more "popular" than Linux?
\_ PH#1: ask yermom. BSD: Ask AT&T.
\_ Linux is more popular because of the license, and Linus
is pretty good at engineering the open-source effort at
the kernel level, preventing linux from forking to various
similiar but incompatible variant. Most people here at
motd resent Linux in one way another because BSD could of
been what Linux is today.
\_ no, we don't like linux because it's the windows of the
*nix world and we're tired of rebooting machines, the
endless patch/upgrade cycle, the instability, the bugs,
the data loss, and the zealotry. if you wanted to know
why people feel a certain way you should just ask, not
wrongly assume and then spew like you know. i have no
particular love of bsd because it has roots here. i don't
even prefer it as my #1 production system. i prefer *not*
to use a piece of crap like linux and i've got the night
and weekend hours and data loss to explain it without
getting emotional and silly like you try to paint it. these
are all just operating systems which are very similar. i'm
tired of playing with linux toys when there are real
tools out there. no resentment. linux is just inferior
as an operating system.
\_ From a coding perspective, linux is a frustrating system
to support. Often I've found that kernel modules that
compile and load fine on one minor revision of the kernel
(2.x.y) won't work on a slightly newer minor revision
(2.x.y+2). Usually the cause is something stupid like
the renaming of a function/struct or a change in the
order of the parameters of a function. Stuff like this
doesn't happen on proper systems (Solaris, *BSD, etc).
The problems aren't limited to the kernel, glibc and
userland are quite frustrating as well. Linux has this
tendency to emulate functions and pgms from other
systems except that the Linux versions are always
"improved" in some way which forces you to add Linux
specific code to your pgms with all sorts of #ifdefs
for different versions of glibc and so on. This kind
of thing doesn't happen on most other systems.
I don't mind Linux, I just wish that the people
working on it displayed a bit more sanity.
\_ you're described the natural consequence of a bunch of
monkeys banging away at a keyboard thinking that they're
writing an OS. Open source on a world-wide scale
doesn't work. That's why you see these problems. The
*BSD people don't have this problem because it's more
tightly controlled. Smaller group -> higher quality.
\_ LINUX ROCKS! BSD IS DEAD! |
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| news.com.com/2100-1016-1015814.html Apple Computer is being sued by The Open Group, the San Francisco company that claims ownership of the Unix trademark, for using the term Unix in conjunction with its Mac OS X operating system without a license. Apple has countersued, asking a judge to declare that the trademark is invalid, because the term Unix has become generic. Though initiated nearly 18 months ago, the case has not yet gone to trial. According to a motion filed with the court Tuesday, both companies want to have an exchange of factual documents completed by August, with a trial sought for February. This legal battle, though separate from SCO's recent 27 claim that Linux uses copyrighted Unix source code, adds further fire to the debate over the custody of Unix--the 30 plus-year old OS originally developed by AT&T. Despite SCO's acquisition, from Novell, of much of the intellectual property associated with Unix, the Unix name itself was transferred to 28 The Open Group, which established a licensing program for the use of the name that includes software testing as well as a licensing fee, among other things. SCO and Novell are sparring over the extent of SCO's ownership of Unix, while SCO and IBM are embroiled in a trade-secrets lawsuit. The Open Group, also known as X/Open, sued Apple in December 2001 alleging, among other things, that Apple had infringed on its trademark. Months of mediation meetings ended without a settlement, according to The Open Group. Since 29 introducing Mac OS X in March 2001, Apple has consistently touted the 30 Unix underpinnings as part of its marketing of the operating system. The Open Group wants Apple to have Mac OS X undergo testing to certify that it complies with its standards for software bearing the Unix name; The Open Group says the costs to license the name are reasonable, based on the size of the company and the rough number of copies of the software Apple sells. In any case, no company is required to pay more than $110,000, said Graham Bird, vice president of marketing for The Open Group. Get Up to Speed 48 Enterprise Security 49 Open source 50 Utility Computing 51 VoIP 52 Web services 53 Wi-fi 54 Spam: Report Card 2004 ZDNet's Dan Farber and NetsEdge Research Group's Peter Christy look at the latest weapons used to fight spam. |
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| com.com -> www.cnet.com/ Longhorn goes to pieces Microsoft is dialing back the feature list on the next version of Windows (code-named Longhorn and due sometime in 2006). One of the biggest changes: The next-gen OS won't have WinFS, an add-on to the file system that would theoretically make it easier to find documents, e-mail messages, and multimedia files--no matter what their format--on local PCs and across networks. Yahoo boosts free e-mail storage Responding to the threat from Google's Gmail free-mail service (which will supposedly offer users 1GB of mail storage), Yahoo says it will up the allotment of online storage for its free users to 100MB Paid customers will get "virtually unlimited" storage. The upgrades will launch this summer, along with a face-lift for the service as a whole and more tie-ins to other Yahoo services, such as Photos and Messenger. PalmOne updates Treo Handheld maker PalmOne has released a software update for its Treo 600 smart phone. Among the tweaks: enhancements to the browser and e-mail program, as well as improved "audio-quality reliability." The device has been overwhelmingly popular but has not been without its critics. The update is initially only for Sprint customers who own the phone; |