6/9 Israel-Palestine question. Most people agree that return of
1967 border and waive the right of refugee's return is somewhat
more viable peace plan than anything else. My question is: I
thought that Gaza Strip was taken away from Egypt. Howcome that
during the discussion of Palestine statehood, no one talked about
returning Gaza Strip back to Egypt?
Ignorant Chinese
\_ The West Bank was taken from Jordan, so you should be asking
the same question about Jordan. But Jordan doesn't want to
deal with the West Bank, and Egypt probably doesn't want to
deal with Gaza.
\_ because Israel is no way no how going to give that back to Egypt.
\_ hey moron - Israel *wanted* and *wants* to give the gaza back
to egypt. If you read up on the peace plans of the past, Egypt
refused - they didn't want to deal with it either.
\_ yeah... Israel *wants* to give the gaza back. I thought
Gaza Strip is part of the promise land.
\_ I just thought that i would make more sense, and it shows
a good gesture to the Arab world that Israel is serious about
the settlement. Further, it can deflect some of the problem
to Egypt... let Egypt to deal with Palestinians in the Gaza
Strip.
\_ Here's the real answer: Jordan doesn't want the West Bank back.
Egypt doesn't want the Gaza Strip back. Why? Because they're both
packed full of palestinians. *No one* wants palestinians in their
country. They're kept in poverty and in permanent refugee status
by the other Arabs to give their dictators something to distract
their own people from their own very real problems. There were
hundreds of thousands of Jews all over the middle east who got
forcefully evicted from their homes. Places where Jews had lived
for more than a thousand years in many cases. Israel took them all
in. No country has taken in the palestinians and never will. The
palestinians are considered garbage people by the other Arabs. As
far as "most people agree", you should find a larger set of people
to talk to. Israel will never go back to the '67 borders. They
aren't defendable. As far as the right of return goes, they have no
more right than the Jews have to return to their homes: none. ok,
enough being trolled.
\_ This is true... Kuwait evicted all of its Palestinians
after GWI, the Saudis also evicted and put others in camps.
Jordan is over 50% Palestinian.
\_ Might also want to look up massacres of
Palestinians and expulsion of PLA/PLO by Jordan in
1970. -John
\_ hey, I am just looking at this whole situation and trying to
make sense of it. I just thought that a Palestine State (for
sake of arguement, 100% of West Bank) AND Gaza Strip is not
viable at all. And by the way, I don't buy the "undefendable
border" arguement. If you look at the national border over the
world, you will see borders, for the most part, are not
defendable. --OP
\_ Ummm.. Maybe so, but most places
A) Don't get much choice about it regularly
B) Aren't surrounded by other countries obseessed with
killing them, and them in particular.
\_ So you think once there's a "viable Palestinian state" that
the various palestinian terrorist groups will suddenly stop
killing Israelis and the rest of the arab nations will put
Israel on the maps they use in their grade schools?
Israel on the maps they use in their grade schools? While
we're trolling on Israel, what do you think of China releasing
Tibet and also stop threatening to invade Taiwan and let it
be independent? Or maybe the other way? Tibet and Taiwan
should STFU and stop rejecting their natural motherland?
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\_ Terrorism is an act of desperation. Mind you that
there was once upon a time when Arab nations were
reasonable, rational, and even democratic. But we
took advantage of that by creating an Israeli state,
evicted people who lived there close to 2000 years, and
installed pro-western government so we can extract
oil from them. If we were following the democratic
principle, Israel wouldn't of created at first place.
\_ Why are they packed full of palestinians?
\_ Because palestinians breed like rats and no one and I mean
*no one* wants rats in their house.
\_ Interesting. My boss is Palestinian. He may be overweight
and a blowhard, but I can't say he's been breeding like a
rat. |