6/1 PBS's Pontificator
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\_ Ah, Bill Moyers... societal threat. Evil incarnate. A loose Liberal
boogieman. Blah, blah, blah. Sheesh, try again. You bore me,
conservative poster.
\_ Are you serious? Accuracy and disclore aren't important to you?
Is this what's become of 'liberals'?
\_ Please. When is the last time a casual liberal quoted Bill
Moyers to you? I find this motd-unworthy. BORRR-ring
\_ What does that have to do with anything? If Moyers is a
raving loon with conflicts of interest, being aired on PBS,
he should be nailed to the wall by everyone. Are you a NY
Times journalist?
\_ Are you as upset with Haig/Weinberger's World Business
Review? Also gets funding through PBS, also touts
itself as journalism, also has major conflict of interest
issues. --scotsman
itself as journalism, also has major conflict of
interest issues. --scotsman
\_ Yes.
\_ I haven't heard of it, but if what you say is true,
then yes I'd be just as upset. Do you have a link to
an article discussing it? --emarkp
\_ Because it's OPINION, not journalism. It's like getting
mad at Limbaugh because conservatives give him money.
\_ They don't. He has a contract to do his radio show
for $x. If he stopped doing his show or if his
ratings dropped, he'd get kicked off the air. Rush
is paid to bring in audience for advertisers. If
he was a leftists and brought in the same audience
he'd get the same money from the same people.
\_ He is still carried on many small radio
stations. The fact that 90% of the radio
stations are owned by three media
companies has more to do with the
lack of distribution.
\_ Not really true. The Jim Hightower show was
hugely popular, but ABC/Disney cancelled it.
\_ Apparently not popular enough for someone
else to pick up for profit. Funny how the
free market works.
\_ He is still carried on many small stations.
The fact that 4 companies control 90%
of the radio market has more to do with
him not being able to be heard by most
\_ Compationate conservative that you are, you should feel
better that they can now go to your local church.
Americans. Funny how the free market "works"
\_ actually it is 5 controlling 40% but hey,
why bring in facts? if he was popular,
the free market would sell his show. he
isn't so he gets banished to the outland.
\_ So, he doesn't do speeches for conservative
groups for money? Or give endorsements for money?
Or get paid for being part of a conservative
forum/think tank? Ooo. Never. Extra money? Ick.
\_ Not that I know of. Not that I know of. Not
that I know of. I do know that his current
contract is for $500m. That's 500 hundred
million dollars. I don't know how many years
it covers but I don't think length matters for
$500m. He doesn't need to do any of those
things or make "extra money". He golfs. If
you listened to his show, you'd know that.
\_ Sure it matters. You think it's a contract
without behavior clauses or rating limits?
If he's goes DUI and runs over a kid, that
contract vaporized. If he turn demo, ditto.
He's making money while he can do it.
\_ He's probably making $50m a year. You
seriously think he's going to waste his
time on some lame-o Clintonesque speaking
gig for $100k? You're a) nuts and b)
clearly not a listener of his show.
\_ the point is Fed tax dollars go to NPR, PBS, and Moyers.
\_ Less than 2% of NPR's operating budget comes from federal
funds.
\_ Good. Then they can do without it.
\_ Fed Tax dollars go into LOTS of things people disagree with.
Defense, ATF, Dept. of Education, etc. Should we ban Frontline
for showing things you disagree with?
\_ Fed tax dollars should not go into NPR anymore than they
should go to my local church.
\_ Yah.. wouldn't it be nice if there were a constitutional
several hundred billion dollar deficit. Helpless victims
want a nanny state, from cradle to grave, that someone else pays for.
-op
line between state and press? Then they might actually
have an interest in exposing gubmint lies.
\_ I'm with you on that.
\_ Compassionate conservative that you are, you should feel
better that taxes can now go to your local church.
\_ I'm not. I don't. They should go to neither. Thanks
\_ tax dollars should go to functions clearly
mandated by the Constitution, defense and ATF are enumerated.
Neither of these organizations demagogue.
\_ So there are nukes in Iraq? And we need those B-2s and
mini-nukes? And the Waco fiasco really wasn't part of a
failed publicity stunt? Ban the FBI, CIA, OSHA, EPA, and
DOE. Who cares about trying to evolve government? Let's
suck hard with the strict constitutionalists, re-enslave
the blacks and go back to an agrarian landowners society.
\_ Probably. Maybe, you'd be sorry if we did need them
and didn't have them. Evolve government? There's a
process for that which wasn't followed. Your last
comment is trollish nonsense. You were doing well until
you lost it and started spewing and frothing at random.
\_ Hmm, Lincoln was the first Republican president and
South was solidly democrat until the past decade and
a half.
\_ It was solidly Democrat BECAUSE Lincoln was a
Republican.
\_ whatever the reason, the Democrats were and
still are the party of southern white racists.
\_ It isn't nonsense. You're arguing against those
departments because it's not in the Constitution,
which is very strict intepretation. It's denies the
basis of a dynamic government and offers only one
that is set in a late 1700's world and mindset.
\_ nonsense = frothing about re-enslaving people.
you're being intentionally stupid. when you
stop the rhetorical dancing in the wind, we'll
have something to talk about.
\_ I did, you missed it. Strict interpretation
vs. evolving government. Try harder.
\_ Now you're beyond intentionally stupid and
just outright lying with the text right
there to show it. Amazing. You win. I'm
too stunned at your chutzpah to go on.
\_ You're right. I do win. HAHAHA! Watch
my superiority dance, clueless one.
\_ The mentality in this thread illusrates perfectly why we have a
several hundred billion dollar deficit. Helpless victims want a
nanny state, from cradle to grave, that someone else pays for.
Then have the audacity to display outrage when the government
intrudes further into our lives - never making the connection how
the government acquired the resources and ability to do so in the
first place. -op [formatd]
\_ No, I just didn't think the original post was really that
interesting. If you want to find a liberal scapegoat, find one
that people listen to and agree with to on a regular basis. And
tear them apart. Who REALLY cares about Bill Moyers?
\_ The problem with that is there isn't a liberal that people
listen to and agree with on a regular basis so we have to
make do bashing the extremists, the liars, the criminals and
the frauds.
\_ I thought the media was Liberal? What about them?
\_ As a class. No individuals worth naming. Just a large
shapeless blob of idiocy chanting the same mantra. It
doesn't matter which one you listen to because they're
all the same.
\_ So point out where they lie, where they're having
conflicts of interest, etc and go from there.
Attacking Moyers isn't really worth the effort. |
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