5/30    "US choice of disarmament to justify Iraq was political: Wolfowitz"
        http://csua.org/u/32e
        \_ *HELLO*  you just figure that out?  Look at the obvious:
           1. we impose sanction against Iraq in name of WMD.
           2. we topple the government there by force.
           3. we lift the sanction without proving that Iraq doesn't have
              WMD from reliable sources.
           We are in a catch-22 situation. If Iraq has WMD, then the lift
           of sanction won't be justified.  If we can't find WMD in Iraq,
           then, the most persuasive arguement to go to war at first place
           won't be justified.
           \_ Why would you maintain sanctions if there is no government there
              to build or launch WMD?
                \_ Why?  We're good at whup-assing people we don't like.  We
                   just happen to a bit too selective about it for my
                   liking.  -John
           \_ You're right, we knew that all along. There is no need to remind
              us about it. However, what's peculiar about this article is that
              it's being published in mainstream press and it quotes a
              high-ranking government official (and not say, some anonymous motd
              poster). -op
              \_ Dear OP Scum, you're more likely to get the truth from me than
                 you are to get it from any government official in any
                 administration.  --some anonymous motd poster
        \_ Hint: there was no second war in the gulf.  The first one was never
           finished.  We were just finally finishing what was started in '91.
           \_ you then should finish off the revolution war and war of 1812
              and topple the crown in Britian
                 \_ We should finish the Korean ware too. If nothing else
                    will will make the world safe for H07 K0R3AN CH1X, LCDs
                    and cheap DRAM.
                    \_ We already have all those.
                        \_ If NK attacks, we would lose all of them so we
                           should preempt them and protect our investment
                           in free access to H07 K0R3AN CH1X, high quality
                           LCDs and cheap DRAM.
              \_ Idiot.  The shooting never stopped in Iraq.  We continued to
                 bomb them since the "end" of the "first" gulf war and they
                 continued to shoot at our planes.  But you knew that and were
                 just being intentionally stupid when you wrote your drivel.
        \_ In his quote above, Wolfowitz is saying that those in the Bush
           administration wanted war in Iraq for different reasons:
           . To free the Iraqi people from a tyrannical dictator
           \_ Why, in 12 years of discussing it, did they never use this as
              a talking point in the press?  This is a bullshit afterthought
              that they threw out because focus groups pounced on it.  We
              have never used our military soley for "freeing people from
              tyrrany."  In fact, more often, we've been the ones installing
              the tyrranies.
              \_ The current administration hasn't been in office 12 years.
           . To depose a government which may sponsor terrorism
           \_ Against us?  That's a BIG "may"
              \_ Terrorists are terrorists.  You think they're choosey who
                 they target?
           . To enforce UN resolutions
           \_ HAHHAHHAHHHAHAAAHAHH!  wow.  You really swallow this stuff whole?
              Our selective choices of which UN resolutions deserve enforcing
              should give anyone pause.
              \_ We should've let the UN sink years ago anyway.
           . To facilitate movement of U.S. military out of Saudi Arabia
           \_ And into Iraq?  Yeah, that'll win us points with the imams..
              \_ Actually, yes.  It will.
           . To create a democratic secular Arab government
           \_ Wouldn't it be nice.
              \_ You had a better plan for this or you think Arabs are
                 genetically inferior and incapable of secular democracy?
           . To prevent the distribution of WMDs to terrorists
           \_ Find the stash first...  We claimed, very publicly that we had
              solid proof of when and where development was happening.  We have
              a little trouble with the truth.
           The only reason the Bush administration could agree on was the
           last.  Disarmament was the reason selected to be emphasized
           to the American people and the world at large; hence, this was
           a "political" decision.