5/9     Why do you guys spend so much time in Vegas? do you actually
        gamble?
        \_ Because they are outsized children making double or triple as much
           as most grown-ups. There are few better ways of liquidating money
           you can't use and don't really want than visits to Vegas.
           \_ Yes, they're all the meanies that gave you wedgies in grade
              school.  Why would you want to go out and be sociable when you
              can play xtrek and dungeons & dragons all day?
        \_ whores. lots and lots of whores.
        \_ Cheaper than flying to Amsterdam, with better gambling. Not as
           disgusting as NO.
           \_ What does "NO" refer to?  I have a feeling google will not
              help me here!
        \_ Yes, and there are good restaurants and neat things to see like
           the Guggenheim and Star Trek Experience. Oh, and free booze!
           \_ Where do you get the free booze? I have been on Aladin and
              MGM Grand casino floors but didn't see anyone giving out
              free booze.
              \_ Cocktail waitresses! Also, the better the casino (more
                 expensive the hotel) the better the drinks. To use water as
                 example, some places give out Pellegrino or Perrier and
                 others give out tap water. --dim
              \_ Just start gambling, and they'll come around asking for
                 drinks. It's usually courtesy to tip 'em, so basically, it's
                 about a buck a drink.
                 \_ ...right.  it's free, but you're gambling.  I know
                    a great way to get "free" drinks like this in an ordinary
                       with it.
                    bar.  Hand the bartender a couple of hundred dollar bills
                    at the begining of the night, and you'll get "free"
                    drinks all night. idiot.
                    \_ Awww, look at the little nerdling waxing all bitter
                       about his complete lack of social skills.  Isn't that
                       cuuute?  Yes he is!  Yes he is!
                    \_ Well, look at it this way. If you're gambling, you're
                       losing money anyway, so why not get a bit of alcohol
                       with it. And I've come out ahead a couple of times,
                       so the drinks really were free for me.
                    \_ Play the low limit slots or just sit there next to
                       someone who is. Put a quarter in every 5 minutes
                       until you get your drink if you're that lame, or go
                       sit in the Keno parlor or sports book. It's no big deal.
                       I usually win, so not only do I have more money than I
                       started with, but get free drinks, too. Stop being
                       so bitter about your lack of success. --dim
                       \_ Unless you are playing poker, it is impossible
                          to "win" for any period of time gambling. Many
                          people kid themselves otherwise, but I would
                          expect better from you.
                          \_ Oh please.  You just don't get it do you?  It's
                             enterainment.  It's like going to a movie or a
                             play -- it's a fun way to go out and meet people
                             in a different environment or to spend a few
                             hours being entertained.  Most grown-ups that go
                             and gamble at Lost Wages seem to understand this.
                             I just can't under stand this "I'm not comfortable
                             there, so I must therefore try and prove that
                             people that are, are lame" attitude.
                             \_ Just clarifying the "I usually win" bit.
                                No need to get snooty about it.
                                \_ It's possible to win at sports betting. -tom
                          \_ So play poker. Blackjack is also a positive
                             expectation game if you know what you are doing
                             and *barely* negative even if you don't. Don't
                             use words like impossible either. It's certainly
                             possible, just not statistically likely. You
                             can't beat the games, except when you do. --dim
                             \_ All right, I grant that if you count cards
                                you can adjust the odds slightly in your
                                favor. Do you count cards? Do you really
                                win most of the time? It is fine to go to
                                Vegas and have fun losing, it is just not
                                realistic to go and expect to win most of
                                the time (unless you are a good poker
                                player) -one who has been to Vegas and
                                both lost and won