5/01    Going to see Matrix Reloaded on 5/15, 9:30 PM at Sony Metreon.
        I have purchased a bunch of tickets.  Nine (9) have not been claimed.
        Special guest appearances by sofia and pst.  Email me if you want to
        claim a ticket ($11 w/handling). -dans
        \_ what is the matrix?
           \_ Unfortunately, nobody can be told what the matrix is, you have
              to see for yourself. -op
              \_ all i wanna know is, is there a spoon or no?
                 \_ there is no spoon.  the spoon effect will be added later
                    using some sort of SGI workstation.
                 \_ STFW!
        \_ sofia is pretty!  ;-)
           \_ she was the whack job who got motd shut down, right?
                  \_ why is she even in the csua? her CV says 'biology"
                     \_ cuz letting non-cs people in increases your chance
                        of scoring.
              \_ Yes.  Paolo was protecting his little girlfriend's
                 sensibilities.  It still sickens me.
                 \_ proving that anyone is capable of abusing power.
              \_ whack job?  What about the people (on the motd) calling for
                 lynchings and nuking Afghanistan?  Shutting down the motd
                 until people calmed down was the right thing to do; the only
                 fuckup was root/staff not explaining exactly how bad things
                 had gotten.
                 \_ Right.  And her blowing Paolo had nothing to do with it.
                 \_ I don't know either of them, or care.  She asked, and that
                    took guts.  Now stop reminding me about sodans having sex.
                    \_ It would take guts if she were not sleeping with a
                       member of the politburo.
              \_ you realize at the time the motd was bad enough that all it
                 would have taken would have been one complaint to the
                 administration and the csua would have gone away.  Forever.
                \_ Quit exaggerating.  Witness the misogynist, racist,
                   occasionally funny UCB hot or not from the CSBA,
                   hosted by the OCF:
                   <DEAD>www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~pshyu/hotornot<DEAD>
                   If we are to believe the website, it's gotten
                   a ton of hits, way more viewing than the motd ever
                   did, "the administration" has gotten a few complaints,
                   the OCF and CSBA are still around. - danh
                   \_ that web page isn't something that all users see when
                      \_ and neither is the motd - danh
                      they log into the system.  There is a difference.
                      Also the motd from right after 9/11 was scary.  People
                      were screaming about the only good arab is a dead arab
                      and the best thing to do is just kill them all.  That
                      is the sort of thing that would lead to administation
                      saying "hey, you know we really want that office space
                      you FUCKING MORONS are occupying, thank you for letting
                      us take if from you."
                      \_ You must be a big fan of Tom Ridge.
                      \_ the motd was scary?  Shit.  I grew up with all the
                         kids saying everyday how we should nuke this country
                         or that country and kill them all, etc.  Stop being
                         so damned sensitive.  The 90s are over.  It isn't
                         cool anymore, if it ever was.
        \_ Are sodans really so pathetic that they would choose to socialize
           with sophia?
           \_ depends.  who is she?
        \_ <immature comments by fucktards deleted>.  Before you bitch about
           your precious motd, and your gross misunderstanding of the first
           amendment, which does not protect the motd in any way, answer me
           this: What have you done for the CSUA lately?  If you're coming
           up blank, grow up a little, and come back when you're ready to
           contribute in a meaningful way.(*)  spaf's farewell comments
           regarding usenet apply remarkably well hear:
           ' People rail about their "rights" without understanding that
             every right carries responsibilities that need to be observed
             too, not least of which is to respect others' rights as you
             would have them respect your own.  Reason, etiquette,
             accountability, and compromise are strangers in far too many
             motd posts (sic) these days.
           (*) Hint: wanking on the motd in order to hear yourself talk isn't
               a meaningful contribution.
           - dans
            \_ the above poster forgot to post his name:
               2:08:16pm 190% fstat /etc/motd.public
          USER CMD PID   FD MOUNT INUM MODE       SZ|DV R/W NAME
          dans vi  98715 3  /     62   -rw-rw-rw-  5744  r  /etc/motd.public
               \_ interesting how he signs one post and not another.
            \_ I am guessing (no, actually it's bloody obvious) you have
               no idea what "sic" means.
               \_ #f.  The usage here is acceptable.  I could also have said
                  [motd posts].
                  \_ If you say so.  I am *sure* you are correct.
                  \_ If you say so.  I am *sure* you are as correct about
                     that as you are about other things.
                  \_ Um, wrong.  They have entirely opposite meanings.  I guess
                     you don't know the different between 'imply' and 'infer'
                     either?
                     \_ you mean dans is *wrong*?  this is inconceivable!
                        \_ It isn't that he's wrong, it's the degree that's
                           boggling.
                           \_ By degree, do you mean how he was completely
                              wrong, or how he tried to defend his first
                              mistake with a second one?
                              \_ Oh what the hell, I'll say both.
                  \_ OW MY HEAD! SHIT! FUCK! -geordan
           \_ as opposed to wanking in the csua office playing video games
              and selling candy? thanks, I'll just participate virtually
              via the net
              \_ oh come on, when was the last time anyone in the CSUA
                 actually did anything useful other than wanking off
                 in the office.
                  \_ Actually it was simple neglect.  I stand behind my words,
                     unlike you, coward.
                     \_ Interesting how once your name is out, you no longer
                 \_ my point exactly... and how is this any more
                    "meaningful" than reading/writign the motd once in
                     a while
                    \_ Well, it gives the office it's own bizarre scent.
                 \_ what about the help sessions?
                        bother to delete other motd posts.  I am sure that
                        is simple neglect also.  I mean, what would posting
                        your name have to do with silencing others?
                        \_ Nope, I'll gladly delete them if they're content
                           free. -dans <posts deleted>
                           P.S. Hey ilyas, are you published yet?
                           \_ Sorry dan, I haven't added to this thread.
                              You seem to use plenty of rope by yourself.
                              And yes I am.
                              -- ilyas
                           \_ So you define content?  As if the post
                              concerning Tom Ridge above has content?
            \_ Apparently correcting dans is a content-free thing, but it
               continues to bug me:  the usage of "(sic)" above, while
               strictly not incorrect, is at best unnecessary, and
               replacing the text with [motd posts] is not at all an
               equivalent.  Of course, dans is always right and has always
               been right, and I am a dissenting idiot. -geordan
               \_ In fact, it is strictly incorrect.  It would have been
                  appropriate to write "[sic]" if 1) Spafford's original
                  quote used the word motd, and 2) the quoter wanted to
                  show that motd was not a typo.  Even then, the correct
                  use would be "[sic]" and not "(sic)".
                  \_ Thank god the Motd Grammarians are here or I'd have
                     always wondered about that!