Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 28258
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2003/4/29-30 [Politics/Foreign/Europe] UID:28258 Activity:very high
4/28    "Remember, I am above Internation Law"
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2983911.stm
        \_ I'm not sure that the reporter did all their homework here. I
           remember hearing about this being planned a few weeks ago, and
           that Belgium had changed their law to prevent exactly this from
           happening.  I don't believe this is a credible new news story.
        \_ Ah, the gauntlet is thrown down.  A Belgian suing a non-Belgian for
           doing stuff outside of Belgium, by Belgian law.  Can't we just make
           that illegal, and the two bizarro-laws will cancel out?
           \_ how come you weren't bitching when Serbian leader were
              on trial?
              \_ The motd is not the only forum I participate in.  Additionally,
                 the court for Milosevic was convened by multiple countries,
                 after massive attrocities were exposed and he was deposed.  It
                 wasn't a random person in country A suing him.
                 \_ we don't participate in your other forums so it doesn't
                    count for shit here.  So you seem to think that as long as
                    multiple countries want to try the leader of another
                    country it's ok?  Or only after he loses an election?
                    \_ Um, Milo. was deposed by force.  You remember the bombing
                       campaign that Clinton authorized without the approval of
                       anyone else?
                       \_ He was voted out.
        \_ Given the precedent of s/France|French/Freedom/g, anyone
           want to guess what Belgium|Belgian will be replaced with?
           \_ haven't you read Douglas Adams?  Belgium is the worst word there
              is.
              \_ Which book is this in? I've read most of the books, but I
                 don't remember anything about this.
                 \_ One of the original three HGttG books.
           \_ Bravery waffles!
           \_ chocolate floormat?
           \_ Nothing.  Except for the random international burping like this
              no news comes out of Belgium.  They only do shit like this so
              we don't forget they exist.  They have no power so no one cares.
                \_ France has no power (except in gourmet and fashion circles),
                   yet we do stupid shit like French = Freedom.
                   \_ Wow, Mommy bred 'em pretty willing to shoot off their
                      mouths without knowing a damn thing didn't she? Read up
                      a little son. We all wish France was powerless but it
                      just isn't so. They are simply less powerful than the
                      US or the UK. They are every bit as sleazy.
                      \_ The US/UK isn't at all sleazy.  Both have plenty of
                         problems but sleaze isn't one of them.
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A Belgian lawyer says he is preparing a case that could see General Franks charged under a law which allows the prosecution of non-Belgian citizens for war crimes. US General Tommy Franks with coalition troops in Qatar, 28 April, 2003 A Brussels lawyer says General Franks did nothing to stop looting The most famous such case was brought against the Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, and caused deep strains in the relationship between Belgium and Israel. If this prosecution goes ahead, Bush administration officials are making it plain they will regard it as a major diplomatic incident - an example of political harassment. A senior administration official warned that even the issuing of indictments would result in what he called "diplomatic consequences" for Belgium. The State Department spokesman, Richard Boucher, said the Belgian authorities should act early to prevent such consequences. HAVE YOUR SAY This will only make it easier for the US to dismiss international courts as irrelevant in the future Daniel, USA 56 Send us your comments "We believe the Belgian Government needs to be diligent in taking steps to prevent abuse of the legal system for political ends," he said. The row erupted after a Brussels lawyer gave an interview to American newspapers in which he said he was aiming to file a case next week on behalf of 10 Iraqi civilians alleging among other things that General Franks did nothing to stop the looting of hospitals in Baghdad and that coalition forces fired on an ambulance. Go 59 News, analysis and background KEY STORIES 60 Falluja general 'not in charge' 61 US hostage in Iraq gains freedom 62 Doubt cast on Iraq torture photos 63 Bush warns of new challenges 64 Arab media fury at abuse photos ANALYSIS 65 US Army soldier clears rolls of razor wire from the main entrance to Falluja 66 Forward or back?