Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 28239
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
 
WIKI | FAQ | Tech FAQ
http://csua.com/feed/
2025/05/25 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
5/25    

2003/4/27-28 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:28239 Activity:very high
4/27    What's the difference between Windows ME and XP?  Is XP really
        more stable?
        \_ ME is Win 95/98. XP is NT.
        \_ Much. Yes.
        \_ Just pirate a Windows 2000 and use it.  Win2k has the same kernel
           as WinXP, same file system as XP, none of that product
           activation non-sense.
           \_ Just pirate XP Corp. and you get the all that plus the bug fixes,
              etc. from XP.
                \_ Speaking of which.  What is XP's advantage over Win2k
                   anyway? All I know is that XP eats more system's
                   resources, and I don't know what is the advantage of it
                   \_ Nothing.  If you have to run Windows, run 2k.
        \_ 95/98/ME is to NT/2k/XP as Linux is to *BSD/OSF1/IRIX/Solaris/etc.
           Not only is XP more stable but it has a real kernel, real FS, and
           several other things 95/98/me doesn't but you'd want to have.
           \_ "You're a loony"
              \_ Ya whatever.  I've used all of these systems.
                 \_ you jus implied that irix is "better" than Linux.. or
                    whatever.. umm no.
                    \_ hey clueless wonder, you have any idea how much stuff
                       Linux has 'borrowed' from that 'lesser' OS, Irix?  go
                       learn something and come back.  Linux can't even be
                       fully upgraded without hours of downtime.  It's
                       ridiculous.  Irix?  A command or two and reboot to the
                       new kernel.  Linux would be a much better OS if they
                       'borrowed' even more of Irix.  Why do I even have to
                       tell you this?  I know!  It's because you've got about
                       30 seconds of SGI time under your belt.
                       \_ actually I worked for SGI and also supported SGI's
                          for several years. I know them well and would
                          actually say they rank about even in terms of
                          stability. Probably know more about Irix than you
                          attended Berkeley (god, admission standars are just
                          but this argument is pointless now. Irix does have
                          some strengths but overall isn't much better than
                          Linux. As for upgrades? Linux kernel upgrades happen
                          much faster and cleaner than Irix and is much more
                          tunable. inst is also worse than rpm and has fewer
                          overrides and tends to screw its pkg db.
                          \_ You're either lying or insane.  Nothing is easier
                             than an Irix upgrade.  Irix also has about 10
                             gazillion more tunables than Linux and you get to
                             them all through a single tool.  What did you do
                             at SGI?  Wash the outside of the cases and mop
                             floors?  That doesn't count.
                       \_ i don't know what you're doing with your linux boxes
                          but mine don't need any downtime at all. the longest
                          is a single reboot. no downtime at all.
                          \_ Oh yeah?  Let's see you upgrade from Redhat 6.x to
                             7.x or higher without downtime.  Or 7.x to 8.x,
                             etc.  Can't be done without lengthy downtime.
                             \_ Debian! apt-get install upgrade kernel
                                and reboot. Ah hour my ass. 2 minutes.
                                \_ Debian aint redhat.  The world uses redhat.
                          \_Okay, you dumbass jerk-offs. Stop bashing OSes.
                          I expect more from people who supposedly attend or
                          attended Berkeley (god, admission standards are just
                          not up to snuff) Next thing you know we're going to
                          have a fucking vi vs. emacs war. This is 2003, not
                          1996. MS and Linux have won. Time to move on.
                            \_ ED!
                            \_ When you learn to format to the motd standard,
                               you'll have taken step 1 on the path to true
                               motd enlightenment where you'll have earned the
                               right to call others dumbass jerk-offs and make
                               noises about the standards at Cal.  Until then
                               stick your head in a pig you dumbass jerkoff.  I
                               expect more from someone who supposedly attended
                               or attends Berkeley (god, admission standards
                               are just not up to snuff).  Ms & Linux have won?
                               What fantasy land are you living in?  The war
                               continues daily.  Idiot.
2025/05/25 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
5/25    

You may also be interested in these entries...
2006/4/5-6 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:42688 Activity:nil
4/5     There's no discussion on Apple being able to run MS Windows??
        \_ I'm honestly not sure if it's a good idea or not.  Now when wonky
           incompatibilities come up, (Such as MS powerpoint conflicts between
           Mac and XP) Mac users may be expected to fix it themselves.  Which
           leads to greater hassle, which leads to more windows use, etc.
           \_ Mac's being capable of running windows is one thing, M$
	...
2006/1/5-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:41241 Activity:nil
1/5     Microsoft to release WMF patch today at 2pm Pacific Time
        http://myitforum.com/blog/rtrent/archive/2006/01/05/18131.aspx
        fyi, Ilfak recently said you can uninstall his patch before or
        after you install the MS patch.
        \_ Looks like it's out now.
        \_ http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/format/default.aspx
	...
2005/6/13-15 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:38111 Activity:nil
6/13    What is the cheapest way to get 3 or 4 arguably legal
        copies of winXP, preferable with SP2 ?  Also, how much
        do extra terminal licenses cost? tnx.
        \_ OEM licenses are cheaper but you can't move them to a different
           machine once you activate it.  (OEM licenses are what you get when
           you buy a new Dell, etc.)
	...
2004/6/16-17 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:30852 Activity:high
6/16    Well, I tried to install Fedora Linux 2 on my second hard drive so
        I could dual boot.  Linux works (I'm using it now) but XP no
        longer boots.  Hmmm... The file system and such is all still
        there, so it must just be that Linux messed up the boot sector
        trying to allow for dual boot.  I have a winXP CD and I can run
        rescue console and get access.  Does anyone know how to get it
	...
2003/11/20-21 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:11161 Activity:kinda low
11/20   What kind of Windows and Office were sold on the market between
        2/18/1995 and 12/15/2001? I'm asking because I'm filling out the
        M$ claim form and I don't want to put anything that is wrong, like
        adding WinXP or OfficeXP when it wasn't out in 12/15/01. Thanks.
        \_ I bought Windows 3.1 (retail ~$100), Word/Excel 6 (retail ~$120) both
           in early 1995.
	...
2003/11/7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:10977 Activity:moderate
11/7    I have an XP installation that reboots itself before it finishes
        booting up, and I'd like to do a fresh install but it was cd-key'd
        by my old school and I don't know the key.  Is there a way to get
        the CD-key from the repair console or from a rescue disk?
        \_ that is why I hate XP.  This may sounds unproductive, but I would
           just reinstall Windows 2000 instead.  Same kernel, same File System
	...
2003/9/7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/SW/Unix/WindowManager] UID:10108 Activity:nil
9/6     I just installed XP (went fine) but the desktop doesn't have a
        My Computer icon. How can I get one on there? I can drag a
        shortcut of it, from the Start Menu, but how can I get an
        "original" one? Thanks.
        \_ there are a few quick things you can do to 2000-ify XP. One is
           to make the start button 2000ish. Right click, properties,
	...
2003/6/3-4 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:28621 Activity:moderate
6/3     If I get a Windows XP and Office XP installation CD from
        someone else, will I be able to install it on my computer?  Will
        it absolutely not work due to licensing issues, or will it
        work in some cases (maybe depending on the type of license)?
        Or is the only way to get Windows XP to buy it?
        \_ All that matters is the serial number. There's a number of them
	...
2003/2/7-8 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:27346 Activity:moderate
2/7     What was the outcome of the "can a Dell XP CD be installed on
        another machine if the first was never booted?" thread?
        \_ someone was saying it was not possible with 2000. so they were
           guessing it wouldn't be possible with XP. I will probaby
           try it this weekend anyway, otherwise suck it up and buy xp.
           \_ I don't want to buy XP.  I want to SELL it.  Any takers?
	...
2003/2/6-7 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:27326 Activity:kinda low
2/6     Can somebody tell me about installing/upgrading to WinXP?
        I deal with MS as little as possible but it's for a friend who
        refuses any alternative.  There are 2 computers, both w/ Win98.
        I want to do a clean install on both-- will XP let me use
        any old Win98 product key to install, and will it let me reformat
        beforehand?  I'm not sure he has his old keys.  Thanks
	...
2001/10/25 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:22824 Activity:high
10/25   NT was supposed to be much more stable than Win3.x.  Then Win2k was
        supposed to be much more stable than NT.  And now XP is supposed to
        be much more stable than 2k.  Sigh.
        \_ Thing is, Win2k really is more stable than NT. Sure, it locks up
           occassionally, but not the seemingly hourly BSODs in NT
        \_ Also, XP supposedly "does away with the decades-old DOS fundamentals
	...
2001/10/16-17 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:22758 Activity:high
10/16   Is there a way to make movie's/animations available on the web, yet
        make them un-copiable?  I think real networks has a technology that
        does it, but they charge, iirc. Any free one's?
        \_ There's a ripper program available so, no, Real hasn't done it
           either.  So what you really want is the Holy Grail of copyright
           protection: viewable content but no copying.  Let us know when
	...