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2003/4/23-24 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Airplane] UID:28199 Activity:very high
4/23    I bought a used Bel 855STi radar detector. But didn't get the
        manual. Does someone have it in electronic format? Or can I
        borrow a paper version for a short time? -- sagarwal
        \_ Hope you're not using it in CA.  Not only is it illegal but the
           cops here don't use that much radar anyway.  I got picked up by a
           \_ You're 0 for 2.  It's legal, and while the CHP don't use it
              that much, the local PDs do.
           cop on 580W who spotted me and correctly pegged my speed from more
           than a mile back without any gear.  He was polite about it and let
           me off with a warning, thank god, but the cops here don't need the
           radar to bust you with a pricey ticket.  My new rule of the road is
           simply, "never be the fastest car out there".  Haven't been picked
           up since yet still get where I'm going plenty fast in second place.
              \- hello, what kind of car where you driving, what was your
                 speed and what was the speed limit. i think anytime someone
                 gets a speeding ticket they should post these details in the
                 motd [along with location]. ok tnx --psb
                 \_ Honda civic, 85 in 65, where 580 meets 238 going west.
              \_ If you get picked up without radar, take it to court.
                 You can much easier fight a ticket when there's no
                 radar report. It's probably the reason why you got off
                 with a warning. I've fought off tickets before, so
                 I'm speaking from 1st person experience. Not fun.
                 \_ Since I didn't get the ticket there was nothing to fight.
                    Most of my tickets have been for red light running and
                    illegal turns so radar isn't an issue.
           \_ http://www.ncsl.org/programs/esnr/radar.htm
              They aren't illegal, except for commercial vehicles.
              \_ Maybe so, but still won't save you from tickets.
                 \_ As far as I know, CHP sometimes use radar to detect, but
                    always paces for a mile for confirmation (and to keep the
                    judge happy).
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Today, microwave radar 3/4 as well as even more advanced laser and photo radar systems--have become sophisticated in the battle against the speeding motorist. Radar's switch in 1965 from an antiquated earth-station S-band to the portable X-band made it available for mobile police use. Shortly thereafter, the detector industry made its debut and over the years, has attempted to meet every advance in law enforcement technology. According to a 1994 article in Car and Driver magazine, radar gun makers over the years have made many advances. Police became able to clock motorists while patrolling or parked, and from the rear of patrol cars as well as from the front. Newer photo radar and laser systems have given police additional technology, and detection equipment makers struggle to keep up. This report summarizes the status of the battle between advocates of law enforcement who seek to curb speeders and those who argue the scales have been tipped too much against the motorist. Legislative efforts in the federal and state governments are highlighted in four areas 3/4 radar detectors, scanners, laser detectors and photo radar detectors. A radar detector is basically a radio able to receive the specific microwave transmissions from a police radar gun. The Federal Communications Commission allows police radar to transmit on only two frequencies (usually referred to as X-band and K-band), so radar detectors are designed to pick up those two frequencies. A radar detector prevents a speeder from getting caught by intercepting radar microwave beams sent from up to a mile away and setting off an alarm device that allows the driver to slow down in time to avoid getting caught. Police scanners are radios used to monitor law enforcement activities. Radar jammers transmit a signal that blocks radar signals. Over the past few years, law enforcement agencies have increasingly turned to laser beam technology to catch speeders and red-light violators. Radar detectors do not pick up laser light, so the laser technology offers a new tool that can supplement radar use in law enforcement. Another technology being promoted and gaining in popularity is photo radar. Photo radar is probably the most controversial of all speed-detection systems today, since the speeding motorist typically never comes into contact with a police officer. Photo radar is operated by law enforcement officers or works automatically. The system combines a camera, radar and often a reader board that displays the speed of each passing vehicle. If a speeding car is detected, a picture is taken of the driver and of the license plate. A ticket is then mailed to the registered owner of the vehicle. A related technology is red light cameras which photograph motorists running red lights. The Federal Highway Administration has prohibited radar detector use in commercial vehicles involved in interstate commerce since January 1994. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety maintains that states and the federal government are on solid legal ground in restrictive laws on radar detectors. Court of Appeals in 1995 unanimously upheld the federal government ban on radar detector use in commercial vehicles that are involved in interstate commerce. The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, in a survey of 21 countries, recently found only the United States, Iceland, Japan, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Spain and some Canadian provinces (Alberta, British Columbia, Nova Scotia and Saskatchewan) allow radar detectors. In most of the other 14 countries, it is illegal to sell as well as use a detector. In France, for example, a vehicle may be seized if a radar detector is discovered. The FCC regulates both radar detectors and jammers, but not newer photo radar and laser beam technologies. Confusion sometimes results for amateur radio operators because overly broad radar detector and scanner laws can appear to target them by barring any reception of police signals, according to the National Motorists Association. The FCC has attempted to clear this up through an administrative ruling that allows amateur radio operators to have a scanner with the ability to listen to these police radio signals. The FCC has ruled that manufacturing devices, such as jammers, that interfere with devices in other services are inappropriate. Most recently, in December, the FCC issued a cease and desist order to Rocky Mountain Radar of Colorado to stop making jammers. However, they are allowed in noncommercial vehicles in the other 49 states besides Virginia. State legislatures for the most part have been unwilling to ban detectors. According to the Radio Association Defending Airwave Rights (RADAR), more than 110 attempts to ban radar detectors in 33 states have been defeated in recent years. 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