Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 28196
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2003/4/23-24 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:28196 Activity:very high
4/23    The following dating simulation may be useful to sodans:
        http://philip.greenspun.com/dating
        \_ I feel like I'm reading his tcl tutorial - danh
        \_ Where's your pride, man?  Surely a Sodan can write a better
           (and more witty) dating simulation than those MIT twits!
           \_ ED!
           \_ And to top it off, it's from Greenspun. Somehow that guy
              has an uncanny ability to get under my skin. I just read
              something he wrote on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict
              that had a level of insight, analysis, and self-confidence
              I'd expect from a 15 year old. Everything I encounter from
              that guy manages to annoy the hell out of me.
              \_ This http://philip.greenspun.com/politics/israel you mean?
                 Not only is it well written but it's backed by facts, quotes,
                 links, numbers, and historical context.  Things that would
                 piss off the typical anti-Israeli motd poster.
                 \_ There's plenty of stuff in that article to piss
                    off the typical pro-Israeli motd poster. - danh
        \_ she is ugly
           \_ Why is this such a common theme?  Seems like people set
              expectations very high in this regard.
                \_ because CSUA geeks are the epitome of male beauty.  -tom
                   \_ especially raytrace... --scotsman
           \_ At worst she's simply not your standard over inflated http://pr0n.net
              whore.  She's a reasonably attractive white chick who hasn't had
              artificial 'enhancements'.  She's also at MIT.  She also gets
              laid.  In summary, she's more attractive than you, smarter than
              you and has better sex than you (anything is better than none).
              She's got my vote.
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Politicians like rich people so you'd think that the fact that American Jewish households had a median income of $50,000 per year might give them more clout than the average American household with its $42,000 income (source: National Jewish Population Survey 2000-2001). However, the income differential fades into insignificance when you adjust for the fact that the median age among American Jews is 41 against 35 for the general population. Older people of any race or religion are more likely to have advanced degrees and career experience that lead to higher salaries. The bottom line is that an American political strategy of winning over Muslim voters by promising to liberate Palestine would seem to be roughly as effective as promising to support Israel. Conventional wisdom in international politics is "Nations do not have friends. The only concrete benefit that the State of Israel has provided to the United States is the absorption of millions of Jewish refugees from Europe, Arab countries, the former Soviet Union, and miscellaneous states such as Ethiopia. We were able to turn down their applications for immigration in good conscience. As long as the State of Israel exists, which grants automatic citizenship to any Jew who shows up, we can turn Jews away from our borders without risk of an embarrassing mass killing. During the 1930s the average European Christian had the following preferences: 1. However it is worth pointing out that Hitler original plan was not to kill Jews; The British White Paper of May 1939, backed up by the British Navy, closed off Palestine. Under the White Paper no more than 75,000 Jews would be admitted to Palestine during the succeeding five years and after that all immigration would be at the discretion of Arabs. Today the average American would probably express the following preference list: 1. How happy would the the average American gentile be to live alongside Russian and Middle Eastern Jews who don't share his culture, language, and values? A 2002 Anti-Defamation League study found that 17 percent of Americans agreed with a long list of classical anti-Jewish statements and an additional 35 percent agreed with "Jews have too much power in the business world" or "Jews have too much control and influence on Wall Street". Slightly more than 50 percent of Americans therefore are uncomfortable with the Jews that are already here. Rather than get into a national debate on whether more Jews can be tolerated on our shores, we send money and weapons to the Israelis. Imagine that you had a fat drunk cousin named Earl living in a trailer park in Louisiana. Would you rather send $250 every month to keep him in beer and pork rinds down there or let him come up and move into your guest room? This preference shift occurring in America but not in Europe explains why the Europeans provide no financial support to the State of Israel. Europeans expect Jews fleeing Israel either to be killed or to settle in non-European countries. Note that Europeans have demonstrated a willingness to pay money to keep immigrants out. Under German law ethnic Germans living in certain other countries (volksdeutsche) have the right to return to Germany and claim citizenship and various welfare benefits. There are approximately 300,000 volksdeutsche living in Kazakhstan. These are the remnants of a large ethnic German population that were once prosperous farmers in the Volga and who were exiled by Stalin to Kazakhstan in 1941. Their descendants do not speak German and don't have the skills or education to succeed in the German economy. So the German government tries to keep them happy right where they are through aid programs. 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