4/10 One of my "liberal" coworkers was against the war, and now that we've
"liberated" the Iraqis, she's arguing about how great it is that they
no longer have this oppressive regime that would torture its people
and so forth. So do most supporters of the war think that it is about
a) Regime change for the Iraqis:
b) Nat'l Security:
c) Financial Gain for Americans as a whole:
\_ Few people doubted that US would win militarily without too much
trouble. I personally predicted 2 weeks when asked. I was a
little too optimistic. I have always found the WMD and Al Queda
link accusations weak in evidence and the response disproportionate.
Regime change for the benefit of Iraqis is the only possibly
legitimate justification for killing tens of thousands of Iraqis.
However, regime change as justification is illegal under
international laws and may become a dangerous precedent, so the
WMD excuse. I hope things work out well.
\_ Really? It was just a couple weeks ago when pundits were
muttering about fedayeen, too few troops, and I thought I
even heard talk of quagmire. For example (abstract only),
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FA0D1EFD35540C748EDDAA0894DB404482
\_ That's relatively speaking, like arguing whether Cal's
football team would lose 52-6 or 42-10, and the opposing
side's coach telling his players not to take Cal lightly.
\_ did you even read the link? to quote: "It is not likely
to change the outcome of the war, but it will prolong the
fighting, make it more costly for his adversaries and
profoundly affect the way it is seen in other Arab
countries and around the world." now in light of this
quote, is your Cal analogy fair?
\_ How about this?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A34229-2003Mar26
\_ What about it? Army guys playing down
expectations and painting a more formidable enemy to
cover themselves in case things don't go as well as
planned? What do you expect them to say? "This is
a turkey shoot." ?
\_ Again, did you even bother to read the link?
\_ Err ... yes. Did you? Also, try using http://csua.org,
at least for the long nytimes link above.
\_ It is about A and B. C is a long term side effect but in the
short term wars cost money.
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