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2003/3/27 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/India, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Others] UID:27872 Activity:nil
3/26    What the Slimes were saying about Afghanistan after 3 weeks -
        NY Times article entitled: Quagmire Recalled: Afghanistan as Vietnam
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/876504/posts
        \_ What part of that article doesn't still hold true?  The Vietnam
           comparison was weak, but it basically says that
                * the war is going more slowly than hoped
                * real ground troops are required
                * air power / special ops are not enough
                * setting up a new government will be difficult
           All of this has been borne out.  The country is still controlled
           by warlords in nearly every area; there are still many terrorist
           hideouts that can't be searched by a small force, and the special
           ops teams are spread too thin.
           \_ No one said it would turn into the flower of central asian
              democracy in a week.  I see no problems there that time won't
              cure.
              \_ time and support, yes.  I'm not saying the situation is
                 horrible.  But the article was right.  We did need regular
                 troops, and those troops were sent.  Not enough, because of
                 Iraq.
           \_ They were wrong on every account.  The Afghan national army
              was being trained, and is now making progress.
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Every American military engagement since 1975 has been compared to Viet Nam so I get confused as to which conflict the media's currently talking about. If you ask a Washington Post reporter, they would say DC traffic is another Viet Nam. If people use the phrase enough times, it loses any real meaning. We lost a few down there, but it sure as hooey wasn't the Vietnam redux like the commie lib media dumbasses said it would be. And such Good Men and True as President and Armed Forces Commander-In-Chief, George Walker Bush and Secretary Donald Rumsfield and General Tommy FRanks and Advisor Doctor Condolleeza Rice et al are running things down DC way! Just the bravo sierra post by Freepers today from the NY Slimes/Reuter/BBC/ABCNNBCBS would make one think that we have lost the war. We need 300,000 body bags and 300 billion people on earth hate us! Johnnie Apple, resident New York Times fathead, wrong again. This kind of reporting is why the MRC's new project is so important. They should then pull out all their pundits and then dust off their old Afghanistan column (substituting Baghdad for Kabul and Kurds for Northern Alliance, of course, for accuracy's sake) and then simply those columns. They would sound exactly the same as the crap they are now running. From the initial reports that US military action was rapidly achieving its aims, the mood of the US military has swung to fearing that they are making too little progress by only bombing. Reports have surfaced that this first ground raid did not go as planned. The extremely pro-war London Daily Telegraph described it as a "cosmetic" raid "designed to provide a show of something happening on the ground", but then reported that the US troops "were stunned by the resistance they met and had to get out sooner than expected, Pentagon sources said. But our men were surprised by the amount of resistance they ran into. The speed with which the Taliban launched a counter-attack came as a bit of a shock. Every American military engagement since 1975 has been compared to Viet Nam so I get confused as to which conflict the media's currently talking about. Just like any gathering of three or more lousy garage bands is another Woodstock. The prism through which they view everything was formed roughly in the period from 1967-1973, or at least the part they remember between drug episodes. Iraq, a much more capable military force, and six days in we've already reached the Q point. The only way to speed it up further is to indiscriminately kill civilians and soldiers alike. Yes, and the stock market crash of 1987 was supposed to be the start of another Great Depression. And by the year 2000, according to radical environmentalists of the 1960s, all the fish were supposed to be dead. Do these people ever have to answer for the stupid things they've said in the past? Karzai is basically mayor of Kabul and that appears to fine with us. Mulliner I do not read the NY Times except for some of the links that I find here and on Drudge. Someone pls show me where a US Offical says "cakewalk" with respect to taking out Saddam. FOREVER DUMB (parody of "Forever Young") May God bless and keep my lawyers, May my bitch not piss-off Jews, May y'all do it to each other, And let the government do it to you. May ol' Bill still matter to the stars And rise above his scum, And may you stay, forever dumb, Forever dumb, forever dumb, May you stay, forever dumb. May ya' cooperate with leeches, May you grow up to be fools, May the knowledge of my half-truths, Just block the light around you too. May y'all ignore outrages, And let my guys take all your guns, And may you stay, forever dumb, Forever dumb, forever dumb, May you stay, forever dumb. May old "Handsome" always be sleazy, May the meek always vote left, May I mask equivocations, When the winds of change may shift. May my herd always be loyal, May my throngs always be numb, And may you stay, forever dumb, Forever dumb, forever dumb, May you stay, forever dumb. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.