3/13    Can anyone think of any benefits of IE6 over Mozilla other than
        the more-easily-customizable toolbars in IE6?
        \_ javascript stuff doesn't always work in mozilla
           \_ wrong jscript stuff doesn't always work. javascript works.
              \_ whatever.
        \_ If you are one of those people who belive that
           tabbed-browsing-is-the-spawn-of-the-pits-of-shoggoths
           the fact that IE6 doesn't have tabs is a benefit.
           \_ Those can be turned off
           \_ What complaints do people have with tabbed browsing?
                \_ It violates some bs hci rules or something.
                   Some usability drone at work was telling me
                   how tabbed browsing just ruins "workflows".
                   \_ He's an idiot.  It's much better than opening a whole
                      new window for each of 20 links on a page I'd like to
                      see.  Shoot that stupid bastard.  He's some dotcom
                   \_ He's an idiot.  It's much better than
                      opening a whole new window for each of 20
                      links on a page I'd like to see.  Shoot
                      that stupid bastard.  He's some dotcom
                      leftover.
                        \_ Worse. He's an academic fossil with
                           a CS PhD in HCI and a whole list of
                           worthless papers and standards that
                           he is the author/co-author of.
                           \_ Oh God... save us all!  Kill him now!
           \_ tabbed browsing is a god send.
              \_ I never used it. Why is it so great? Isn't it just that you
                 several open pages as "tabs"? Why is that better than just
                 having several open browser windows?
                 \_ Just try it. It's much easier than chasing windows
                    all over the place.
                 \_ It's kind of like virtual desktops. You can "group"
                    certain topics. Like I have one browser full of tabs
                    that is work-related stuff, and one that isn't. --aaron
                 \_ I thought exactly the same until I used it.  It's hard to
                    describe but here's an example: I go to a site that has a
                    lot of links from one page such as google, slashdot, cnn,
                    or other news sites.  I can single click open 20+ tabs and
                    they load in the background while I continue looking for
                    other things on the same page I want to read.  When I'm
                    done I can then start reading through those tabs.  The
                    non-tabbed way would have 20+ windows fucking up my screen
                    and on some/most platforms force me to reclick the first
                    page to bring it back to the top each time.  Also, one
                    click and the whole browser goes to the taskbar.  Non-tabs
                    means 20+ clicks.  It's better.  Try it.  You'll like it.
        \_ just discovered that the toolbars are even nicer/easier to
           customize in mozilla with phoenix installed... -OP
           \_ but phoenix also breaks lots of other nice features :(
              \_ like?
                \_ phoenix 0.5 doesn't support the google search in the
                   address bar, nor the group bookmark open in tabs that
                   I was originally seeking...  Maybe .6 will.  I can't
                   believe they have to change the name b/c someone else
                   trademarked phoenix?!?!? seems bizarre... -OP
                   \_ the nightly build has working google search, even
                      better because if you just type a phrase in the URL
                      bar it does a feeling lucky search. --aaron
        \_ better support for plugins.  maybe it is insecure for morons but
           I like being able to just say "yes, dl the plugin" in a dialog box
           that pops up (or never bother me aboutthis plugin again) and just
           have it work.  And since I'm not a moron it isn't a big deal.
           \_ is there a test of some sort to determine one's moron status?
              \_ yes.  the motd.  you've failed.
                 \_ Am I a moron?