2/25    Any recommendations for a good car alarm?
        \_ here's a recommendation: fuck off and die.
        \_ I've had minimal problems with Clifford.  Very customizable
           (sensitivity, inner/outer sensor, tones, alarm duration, etc)
        \_ I got a car alarm thinking that I would use it all the time in
           Berkeley.  I never bother arming it because if it goes off,
           I have to run out to the front of the building to disarm it.
           Just get a lo-jack system.  You don't have to worry about pissing
           off your neighbors and tripping it yourself.
           A car alarm is money wasted.  How many people hear one and think
           to call the cops these days?
           \_ if you're enough of a motherfucker to own a car alarm
              you deserve to have your car stolen.
              \_ idiot child, many cars for the last several years come with
                 car alarms from the factory.  not the shitbox you might own
                 but most real cars have one as standard equipment.
                \_ For what little they do, you can leave it off when
                   parked in the burbs.
                \_ the point stands.
                   \_ what point?  that you own a shitbox?  ok, point made!
                \_ and those alarms tend to play nice.  That is they only go
                   off if someone forces open the door or the like.  Car
                   alarms like that aren't really a problem.  The ones that
                   are always going off are the vibration sensative or worse
                   proximity sensative pieces of crap that go off when someone
                   drives by or shakes the car.
                   \_ My alarm lets me choose between vibration-and-open and
                      open-only when I activate it.  Pressing 1 alone chooses
                      the first one while pressing 2 then 1 chooses the second.
           \_ At 2am I sure do, but probably not for the same reason you're
              thinking of.  (Ok, I've never Actually Called them...)
        \_ You know, considering how much keying there is here, I see
           remarkably few cars with alarms going off and long scratches on
           the doors, or prawn tails in the airco intake vents or 'FOAD'
                                            \_ how do you get at them?
           written in brake fluid on the hood... -John
           \_ Good suggestions. I'll keep them in mind.
           \_ When I lived in Southside I used to keep a slingshot beside
              to bed to nail those bastards who liked to wake the
              neighborhood at 4AM and then leave their alarm going off.