Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 27517
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2003/2/25-26 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:27517 Activity:very high
2/24    Anybody else been getting porn spam that seems specifically
        crafted to get around SpamAssassin?  I've gotten 6 emails
        regarding mostrubating rappists in the past 3 days.
        \_ The main reason why spamassassin is ultimately useless: such
           crafting is even possible.
           \_ On balance it reduces the time I spend looking at spam (even
              taking in to account the time I have wasted replying to you).
              That seems pretty useful to me.
              \_ You miss the point.
              \_ Pay attention to the word "ultimately."
           \_ You're being pigheaded.
              \_ Not at all.  There are other, more promising, technologies
                 available to accomplish the same task.  But anything with
                 a relatively fixed set of rules and whitelist can be easily
                 subverted.
                 \_ what "more promising" technologies are these?   I'm sure
                    soda folks would be glad to implement them.  (Or does
                    "promising" mean "it doesn't work yet"?)
                    \_ ifile! --scotsman
                        \_ I use ifile, and it doesn't work as well as
                           spamassassin.  -tom
                           \_ I use it too, and have had none of the problems
                              I've seen you describe.  I have 4 false negatives
                              and 1 false positive a month, which is more than
                              acceptable for me. --scotsman
                              \_ ifile is fine, but to call it "more
                                 promising" than spamassassin is silly.  -tom
                              \_ The spamassassin filter lists are updated
                                 frequently based on incoming spam, as are
                                 the ifile lists. Both are going to miss
                                 a few at first.
                                 \_ well, the model is different; spamassassin
                                    is analagous to the virus software model
                                    of centrally managed pattern matching
                                    lists, while ifile tries to learn as it
                                    goes.  -tom
                                    \_ the version of SA I use has an "auto
                                       adjust" 'learning' feature.  I've never
                                       tried ifile since SA works perfectly for
                                       me but there ya go.
                        \_ Phil Graham's Bayesian Analysis rant...er article.
        \_ Then there was that ever-present mostrubating rappist.
           \_ ah, great reference!
              \_ reference to what?
                 \_ Apparently to the OP.  Yeah, he really reached back for
                    that one.
                    \_ Right, if you don't know what's going on just assume
                       you're smart and that they're an idiot.  Keep up
                       the good attitude there buddy.
                 \_ Butthole Surfers, "Pepper"
           \_ They were doing it in Texas.
        \_ check the address make sure it didn't made to the
           auto whitelist
           \_ this is the most useful response in the whole thread! --aaron
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