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        This is the sort of thing that makes me want a smaller government that
        does the minimum necessary to keep things running.  The road to hell
        is paved with good intentions.
        \_ Yes, it was much better when people stood in bread and soup lines
           so they would only eat healthy food and not enough to make them fat.
           \_ Nice try but that's strike one.  A good emotional plea for
              keeping a program around in it's original incarnation long after
              it does more harm than good.  Care to try again?
        \_ Did you read the article?
           "When asked to explain how increased consumption, a goal of the food
            stamp program, negatively affects recipients or contributes to
            increased obesity, Besharov, who appeared reluctant to comment on
            his report, said only, "of course it is negative," and said the
            impact of is explained in his analysis."
           This guy's a crackpot.
           \_ Sorry that he couldn't turn his entire study into a nice little
              brainless soundbite for you.
           \_ I tutor kids age 5-8 who are on the school breakfast program
              and they are as thin as string.  The school lunches may
              be one of the few things keeping them going.  With only one
              exception, none are in any danger of obesity any time soon.
              \_ if you do anything but spend your six figure sysadmin
                 salary on useless electronic gadgets and donate to the
                 libertarian party, you are not qualifited to discuss politics
                 on the motd. prepare to be deleted. and NEVER bring
                 facts fom real life and not a web page into an arguement.
                 \_ The article isn't talking about children but I'm glad to
                    see you putting something back into the community even if
                    it is only to provide a sense of superiority and not
                    genuine charity.
                \_ Why not sign this post?  It's to your credit.  --PeterM
        \_ The only thing that kept me fed when I was a child was the free
           lunch and food stamp programs. I was still very small (5' 3"
           105 lbs at 16) and probably a bit undernourished. No one in my
           very large famliy was obese or overfed until many years later,
           when some of us started making more money. -ausman
           \_ Ho hum... another non-article reader.  I was about the same
              weight/height/age but had plenty of food.  Some people just
              aren't going to be fat teens.  Be glad you weren't.  You'll
              live longer.
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Other experts on federal food programs for the poor say that although Besharov's thesis has received some press attention lately, his analysis is flawed and not supported by data. He says these programs are driven not by an emphasis on healthy eating habits that could help stymie the costly problem of obesity, but by outdated policies that contribute to obesity. Such policies ignore the fact that Americans are much more likely today to be at risk from health problems related to overeating and obesity than those that arise from lack of food. When asked to explain how increased consumption, a goal of the food stamp program, negatively affects recipients or contributes to increased obesity, Besharov, who appeared reluctant to comment on his report, said only, "of course it is negative," and said the impact of is explained in his analysis. In his article, Besharov says that although around 65 percent of Americans are overweight, with more than half of them obese, the best estimates place the rate of obesity among the poor at 5 to 10 percent higher. He writes that despite this high rate of obesity among the poor, low-income families have access to more free or low-cost food than ever before through federal food programs. They are even allowed to use all three programs at the same time while receiving welfare assistance. Phyllis Busansky, a senior fellow at the conservative Hudson Institute and an expert in welfare policy, said that Besharov's criticisms of federal food programs are on the mark in many ways. Robert Greenstein, founder and executive director of the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, a liberal-leaning think tank dedicated to exploring how fiscal policy affects low-income people, said that Besharov's arguments are not realistic. Besharov points out in his report that under the food stamp program, the largest of the federal efforts, a household of four can receive a benefit of up to $465. Other analysts said that Besharov's arguments misinterpret the reality of the food stamp program. Just because $465 in monthly assistance is possible doesn't mean that is what a family would receive, or that even at the highest level the program provides the poor with too much food. The value of the food stamp benefit is based upon a host of factors including family size and income, experts in the program at the Agriculture Department's Food and Nutrition Service told UPI. According to USDA data, the average benefit per person in 2001 was just under $76. Anne Kim, director of the work, family and community project at the centrist-liberal Progressive Policy Institute, said that the threshold amount does not represent the reality of the program's impact on working families. Besharov, however, compares the program's ticket-based design -- in which recipients receive vouchers on a credit card that can be used only to buy food -- to tickets purchased for rides at an amusement park. He says the general tendency for most people is to buy more tickets than they need, which leads them to go on more rides than they planned in order to avoid wasting the extra tickets. In the case of the food stamp program, he says the phenomenon results in over-consumption because recipients purchase food they would not otherwise buy. Besharov recommends fixing the problem by switching the program to a direct cash payment system. Citing USDA studies, he says that a so-called "cash out" of the program would help address over-consumption while still retaining the high levels of daily nutritional intake recommended by the federal government. Kim, however, who is an advocate of reforming the program to make it more efficient to better serve the needs of working families, says, that the basic benefits it provides are still badly needed by America's poor. She has noted in her own writings that only about 37 percent of all households below the poverty line, and about one-third of female-headed household with children, were categorized by the USDA in 2000 as "food insecure" (unable to afford or unsure about their ability to afford) the basic food needs of their families. Kim also said that a major factor influencing high rates of obesity among the poor is that it is much cheaper to purchase unhealthy food than items like fresh fruit and vegetables. Greenstein, Kim and other analysts also said that Besharov's arguments about over consumption in relation to food stamps are off the mark. In a paper published last year, Diane Whitmore, an economist doing post-doctorate work at the University of California at Berkeley, examined two food stamp cash-out experiments conducted in Alabama and California. She found that between 70 and 80 percent of all food stamp recipients had to spend more on food than their food stamps are worth. In examining the cash-out experiments, she also found that this basic purchasing pattern remained relatively stable among those who were given no-strings-attached cash payments that could be used for other purchases. Among the 20 percent to 30 percent of cash recipients who spent less than their total benefit amount on food, Whitmore found that their caloric intake was reduced on average by about only 3 percent. Even if there were a sound link between obesity and the food stamp program, she said, cashing out food stamps would have little impact on most beneficiaries. Whitmore also noted that her research shows that the percentage of people who fail to meet their daily nutritional requirements rises quite a bit among the 20 percent to 30 percent of cash recipients who did change their spending patterns. Robert Lerman, director of the Labor and Social Policy Center at the liberal Urban Institute, said that although Besharov presents an interesting case, he fails to establish a sound connection between federal food programs and obesity in the poor. Nevertheless, he said that it is worth pursuing Besharov's assertion that better dietary habits among the poor might be achieved through efforts to provide better nutritional counseling. But on the other hand, if it were to work it could have a pretty good long term payoff because we know the health costs (of obesity)," he said. Copyright 2004 United Press International Copyright 2001-2004 United Press International.