12/15   New trek movie.  Steaming pile of crap.  Discuss.
        \_ Nemesis = Remake of TWOK w/ crappy bits of Blade thrown in for
           bad measure. Its obvious that Stewart and Spiner have Shatnerits
           and that Star Trek is being treated as a "franchise" with cookie
                \_ Good point.  I never considered reheating shit.  However,
           cutter stories to keep the dollars flowing into Paramounts coffers
           (the bond series suffers from this problem as well). The combination
        \_ wow, I just want to say that the above is one of the more clever
           and entertaining threads in a while.
           \_ Totally.  I'm genuinely surprised that the motd propriety
              censor hasn't nuked this thread yet.
           of humor and seriousness present in the original stories is missing
           from the current Star Trek offerings. Some TNG and DS9 eps. came
           close, but the TNG movies have been a disappointment (First Contact
           being a dim bright spot)
           \_ Stewart got $12 mil / Spiner $6 mil.
                \_ Shatneritis has nothing to do with pay and everything
                   to do with professional immaturity
           \_ Your eyes were playing tricks on you. First Contact was not a
              "dim bright spot." It sucked. The movie franchise has been
              heading downhill since TWOK.
              \_ IV was good.
                 \_ VI wasn't that bad either.
        \_ I disagree.  It is not steaming.  Steaming would imply that
           it is still warm, and therefore, new shit.  It is not new shit.
           \_ It could have been reheated shit.
                \_ Good point.  I never considered reheating shit.  Moreover,
                   if anyone is gonna serve shit warmed over to the public,
                   it's Hollywood.
                   \_ Does microwaved shit count as 'reheated'? Also,
                      using 'reheated' may put too much of a positive spin
                      on it, as refried beans are also 'reheated', and they're
                      pretty good.  -John
                      \_ all shit that comes from a warm-blooded animal was
                         at over 90 F at some point, which is above typical
                         eath ambient temperature, and which hence should be
                         called hot.  any shit which is heated later is
                         re-heated, regardless of what the heat source is.
                      \_ You need a vacation.
        \_ A fan's movie in some ways, a freak-of-the-week movie in others,
           suffered most from being part of the same franchise that brought
           us the excrebale Voyager.  I felt less bad on watching this than
           I did watching Reign of Fire, but worse than watching The Bourne
           Identity.  But hey, who cares?  LOTR's the only show worth
           waiting for now. --erikred
        \_ So you're saying you liked it and it was better than Cats, right?
           \_ Yes, and I'm going to see it again and again and again.  -John
              \_ But, it seems, you didn't laugh or cry?
        \_ It didn't make me angry like the last few star wars movies,
           so I guess it's ok. - danh
           \_ Same feelings here. Not stellar by any means, but more than
              satisfactory enough for me.