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\_ wow, how long before someone tracks this guy down and tosses his
ass in a cell for 15 months before they decide he's not a threat?
\_ He can be an "enemy combatant" and detained indefinately without
access to a phone, let alone a lawyer.
\_ ...and according to Ashcroft, just by suggesting that
this might be a bad idea, you are helping the Terrorists.
But that's ok. as long as people on the motd get to
pay very slightly lower taxes they don't give a shit about
due process or constitutional rights.
\_ yes because if I voted for Bush and lower taxes it must be
because I knew in advance that he'd appoint ashcroft and
ashcroft is an idiot and I'm 100% behind anything Bush does
or says as if it came from the Mouth Of God(c) because I'm
a conservative. Or we could pretend we're adults and not
paint those with differing viewpoints with a huge brush
all in one color unless it makes us feel really smart even
though it shouldn't.
\_ When I was growing up, US keeps preaching to my country's
government: "Detention without trial is wrong! blah blah blah".
Now US is doing the exact same thing. This country has no self-
respect.
\_ The difference being that in China you murder people for reading
the net and sending email. Here, we captured a bunch of bomb
laden terrorist thugs and will hold them safe, fed, and far away
alot of time in Pakistan.
Where was the liberal outrage over Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc.?
Its clear this administration has not abused the powers its been
delegated by the Patriot Act and HSA. Can't wait until Hillary
or the next Clinton administration gets into office.
until they stop trying to kill us all. See that subtle diff?
\_ Huh? ... I have never been to China, unless you count
Hong Kong, which was still under lease when I visited.
Lots of countries faced threats much greater than thosed posed
by some ragtag terrorists, with much less resources to fight
against those threats. How fast US abandons its principles
once it encounters some problems of its own. So much for its
belief in freedom and due process, and the many who died
fighting for these. At least, US knows now to shut its big
mouth.
\_ bomb laden? who was that?
\_ the guy who paid for the 9/11 bombings and a bunch of other
attacks? you've been on this planet right?
\_ readingcomprehensionP
\_ #f
\_ All of TWO U.S. citizens have been detained. Both have access
lawyers and have had their cases brought before judges. One is
enemy-combatant, the other is useless scum who conveniently spent
alot of time in Pakistan. Where was the liberal outrage over Waco,
Ruby Ridge, etc.? How has this administration abused the powers
its been delegated by the Patriot Act and HSA. Can't wait until
Hillary or the next Clinton administration gets into office. [fmtd]
\_ Hundreds, perhaps thousands of non-citizens were swept off the
\_ can you recomend a book or article or documentary or web site
on Waco or Ruby Ridge?
streets and kidnapped out of their houses in the middle of the
night. The government will not release their names or let them
talk to a lawyer. We do not know the conditions of their
imprisonment or the term of their confinement. This is outrageous.
\_ Why should there be liberal outrage? It's not like the guy at
Ruby Ridge won a friggin' lawsuit against the Feds after they
killed his wife and then used the money to fund extremist groups
determined who want to overthrow the government. Gotta love
Janet. Or maybe you think the same folks fucked up at Waco where
they could have pulled DK off the street while he was shopping
for groceries every week and instead laid on with the heavy jack
boot siege which led to an inferno which directly caused the
deaths of many people including several children. What's wrong
with that? In both cases the victims were christian and didn't
support the left. Death is the right answer. The candle lit
vigils are only for the mass murderers and child rapists.
\_ They were Christians?
\_ Ruby Ridge and Waco, yes. The mass murderers only find
Jesus after they're on death row which is too fucking late
for their victims who no one (but their families) seems to
remember or give a shit about.
\_ The ACLU, which is a poster boy for the liberal left, was
very upset over the abuses at Waco and Ruby Ridge. Go to their
site and do a search and you will see all the stuff they did,
including testifying to Congress, at the time. |
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