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| 2002/11/28-30 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:26662 Activity:moderate |
11/28 But when Scott Armstrong, founder of the National Security Archive
and a former staff member of Senate Watergate committee was
told of the news, he laughed for a solid minute. - danh
\_ was told of what news? WTF are you trying to talk about?
thankfully no one is able to read your mind. post a link or kill
your post. you're wasting precious bits.
\_ Henry Kissinger: This Man Is On The Other Side
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/797596/posts?page=1,50
\_ The above about Armstrong is *not* in the freeper link. This
is all BS.
\_ Here's what plastic has to say about Kissinger:
http://www.plastic.com/article.html?sid=02/11/27/18402146;cmt=55
Poliitical satire became obsolete when they awarded Henry
Kissinger the Nobel Peace Prize. |
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| www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/797596/posts?page=1,50 Hoar Posted on 11/28/2002 2:39:34 PM PST by 8 Tailgunner Joe Henry Alfred Kissinger, often pictured by cartoonists in a Superman suit, habitually bites his fingernails. Secretary of State, and his policies, are anything but pro-American. That conclusion is buttressed by considerable evidence, not the least of which was his successful plan intentionally to abandon South Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia to Communist takeover. During his tenure as National Security Advisor and Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger has also arranged to recognize the "legitimacy" of the Berlin Wall and of permanent Communist occupation of East Germany. R (which maintains military bases in Cuba) grew tired of subsidizing Castro, Kissinger initiated "reconciliation" with Communist Cuba and proposes to help the Soviets bear their burden there. He supported a boycott of anti-Communist Rhodesia to make America dependent on the Soviets for vital defense supplies, even as he arranged shipment of our latest technology to Communist dictatorships from Peking to Moscow, and waived bit/ions of dollars owed us by the Soviet Union. According to his friend, Soviet Ambassador Anatoly Dobrynin, Henry Kissinger is so completely trusted by Moscow that he negotiated in the Middle East on behalf of the Soviets as well as the United States. Yet he has so alienated both Turkey and Greece as to shake our alliances and threaten us with loss of our military bases in those countries. And, of course, through his SALT agreements, Henry Kissinger has guaranteed the Soviets a strategic military superiority and deprived us of an effective anti-missile system to protect us from nuclear attack, even as he arranged to strengthen Soviet military capacity through massive credits at giveaway rates of interest. In view of such a record one is not surprised to find that Henry A. He was formally voted the thanks of the American people in a special Congressional Resolution. Yet his detailed revelations about Kissinger have been buried. Bluntly put, there is not only a fox in the chicken coop but he has been put in charge of security on the farm. Before Henry Kissinger began to play at intelligence games his highest ambition was to be an accountant in New York City. Sent to Harvard for training, he was soon being moved through the Eastern Establishment by the Rockefellers and the Council on Foreign Relations until he was advising Presidents in both major parties. He had been made a Director of Special Studies for both the Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Council on Foreign Relations. The man identified as agent Bor was up with the big boys now, and was soon attending meetings with Communists at the Pugwash Conferences, funded by Cyrus Eaton, the millionaire former secretary to John D. Ralph Blumenfeld reports that "Kissinger used to lobby strenuously each year at the Pugwash Conferences of scientists and philosophers, urging East European officials to get their intellectuals" to his International Seminar at Harvard. Kissinger was wafting another volume for the Council on Foreign Relations, this one entitled The Troubled Partnership, which called for a merger of our country with the socialist nations of Europe as part of what he called the Grand Design. Most of The Troubled Partnership argued for what amounts to the end of the United States as an independent power. It is not too early, however, to prepare ourselves for this step beyond the nation-state. One of these "intermediate stages" is now being reached in Western Europe. Kissinger knows very well that Atlantic Union, which he has long supported as a "Liberal" goal, is meant to be a Marxist partnership leading toward merger with the Soviets. It is an objective that Henry Kissinger has for decades shared with Nelson Rockefeller, whom he served as policy advisor, receiving fifty thousand dollars from the New York governor as a token of gratitude when Henry went to work for President Nixon. Kissinger was said to have wept in disappointment when Nelson Rockefeller was denied the Republican nomination in 1968, but despite his open contempt for Nixon, Kissinger joined his White House staff to help with the Grand Design. Literally no public figure had come out for unilateral military withdrawal. Perhaps this was the reason that in 1970 Kissinger reportedly informed the Soviets of the impending invasion of Communist "sanctuaries" in Cambodia. Lenin even as our boys were being betrayed to the Communists in the Cambodian and Vietnamese jungles. Nothing interferes with Henry's quest for a New World Order. Former White House speechwriter William Safire has described Kissinger's comments while attempting to surrender Saigon. The South Vietnamese attempted to delay their destruction as long as possible. Kissinger's "decent interval," with the result that Saigon has been renamed Ho chi Minh City. Kissinger knows very well that helping the Reds now will lead to more aggression later. It is their standard practice, as he pointed out in American Foreign Policy: There have been at least five periods of peaceful coexistence since the Bolshevik seizure of power, one in each decade of the Soviet state. Each was hailed in the West as ushering in a new era of reconciliation and as signifying the long-awaited final change in Soviet purposes. Make no mistake, the Secretary of State knows what he is doing. And the Kissinger surrender policies are moving ahead as fast as he can move them. Much has been made of the "difference" between the remarks of President Ford and Henry Kissinger concerning the roles of Peking and Moscow in overthrowing South Vietnam. Robert Morris, who has just updated his excellent 1955 book, No Wonder We Are Losing (Plano, Texas, University of Plano Press), to include the debacle wrought by Robert McNamara as Secretary of Defense and Henry Kissinger as Secretary of State. Morris writes of the Kissinger reaction in the face of Communist imperialism: . United Press International reported in April: "Secretary of State Henry A. As Phyllis Schlafly and Admiral Chester Ward observe in Kissinger On The Couch (New Rochelle, Arlington House, 1975): "Only one of the two can survive; Nor has Kissinger ignored the role of economic pressure in furthering his Grand Design for the New World Order. Here the plan is not only to loot America on credit but to depress America's standard of living to make possible a Great Merger with the less-developed nations under Communist control. We discussed Kissinger's international food and energy programs at length in American Opinion for March 1975. Since then, he has announced global, designs for the oil market involving "recycling" of money and a guaranteed minimum price for petroleum-producing countries now facing a glutted market. Columnist Eliot Janeway has noted of the price-floor proposal: The spectacle of America offering to guarantee a minimum price for oil as a reward for petropiracy conjures up visions of a gunman being begged not to bind and gag his victim until the latter could write him a life-insurance policy. In time the results - the planned consequences -were runaway inflation, depression, totalitarianism, and war. And every effort is being made by conspirators in our government to keep America from again becoming independent of foreign fuel by pushing ahead with development of our coal and nuclear capacities while virtually stifling development of new oil and gas reserves. International bankers would of course have a field day tending to such a daisy-chain. Henry Kissinger is supported in managing all of this by an able staff of conspirators who, like him, have ties to both the Communists and the Establishment Insiders. Kissinger brazenly admits approving a number of security risks over the objections of worried officials. Ambassadors he sent to anti-Communist Chile and the Republic of China, for instance, contain reports linking both men to the underground Communist apparatus. Our Ambassador to Portugal boasts to the Comrades with whom he is working that America is not a capitalist nation, but well on the way to being a Socialist Welfare State, a development he finds to his liking. Incredibly enough, the Defens... |
| www.plastic.com/article.html?sid=02/11/27/18402146;cmt=55 This is just an attempt to give Lehrer a terminal heart attack. After all he supported his buddy Pinochet and other south of the border terrorist state leaders in the name of "freedom". Who better to know how the burglar got in than one who burgled? While in the midst of collecting facts, a nice gentleman shows up at Kissinger's hotel door with a piece of paper. Truly, the cockle of my heart doth warm at the prospect of seeing him do the perp walk. Christopher Hitchens, having washed his hands of The Nation and planted himself firmly in the company of hawks, finds that Bush appoints his arch-nemesis to handle the official inquiry. Either there's a greater sense of irony emanating from the White House than I could previously credit, or this is just designed to test his loyalty. I said it here a few weeks ago: Hitch forgets that having a common enemy doesn't make you brothers in arms; He really should re-read Orwell on the Spanish Civil War, given his professed love of the man. Not only is it ridiculous that a war criminal (not yet a convicted such, agreed, but still) with a shadowy record of withholding the truth on many extremely important matters is put in charge of something like this, it is also almost laughable that the man in question have trouble leaving his country without being subpoenad with requests he himself deems so serious that he must literary escape the country. It's already been shown that he can't go to Chile or France. Brazil won't guarantee him immunity, nor will much of Europe (although a recent 63 UK bid to have him arrested ultimately failed). I'm sure there's a lot of other places he can't visit, this is just from the top of my head. There was once a hilarious comic strip in the Voice called 'The Incredible Shrinking World of Henry Kissinger' about his vacation and how he had to take a road trip round the US in his mini van while all his friends went abroad, but, alas, it seems to no longer be available online. Also note that Kissinger heads his own private consulting firm, "Kissinger and Associates", which is known to have oil companies operating in Arabic countries as clients. Not that I would really expect anything else of the real life model of Dr. There's been a lot of talk about a 64 citizen's arrest, and even a few feeble 65 attemps, but although I'd love to see it happen one day, I just don't see how anyone could actually pull it off. Maybe the only good thing about it is that the extradition bounty hunters will know where to find him. From Aftergood: KISSINGER NAMED HEAD OF 9/11 COMMISSION In an astonishing move that heralds stark limits on the scope of the investigation of the September 11 terrorist attacks, President Bush today named former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger to be head of the congressionally mandated Commission that will conduct the next phase of the investigation. Kissinger will bring broad experience, clear thinking and careful judgment to this important task," the President said in signing the 2003 Intelligence Authorization Act. But Kissinger is not distinguished as an impartial judge of government misconduct, to put it mildly. To the contrary, he is an investigatee, not an investigator, and one who has stubbornly resisted the disclosure of official information to members of Congress, courts of law, private researchers, and others. With his appointment, it becomes hard to imagine, for example, that the new Commission would ever subpoena the White House for access to the President's Daily Brief that reportedly warned of the potential for terrorism in August 2001. From the 76 AP version: Bush did not set as a primary goal for Kissinger to uncover mistakes or lapses of the government that could have prevented the Sept. Instead, he said the panel should try to help the administration learn the tactics and motives of the enemy. He pledged his administration will "continue to act on the lessons we've learned so far to better protect the people of this country. K-Death summons the independence to tell some hard truths, most especially that, while murder is an evil act, and murder of non-combatants a monstrous evil, the motives behind those acts may have their own substance worth our consideration separately from these crimes. In other words, this is the question we need an answer to: How do we make a lasting peace with the Islamic mainstream that is so stable and secure that murderous religious zealots cannot find sympathy, support, or refuge anywhere? Re: Not quite by 81 NH4 1 at Thu 28 Nov 3:41pm score of 1 in reply to 82 comment 5 Indeed, it's the exact opposite of an "inquiry into the intelligence failings of Sept. We might as well have an "independent inquiry" into the tactics and motives of the Mafia -- as if anyone who cares doesn't already know. Kissinger's admirers have praised his intellectual powers, his long-range strategic vision and his ability to work with politicians of varying persuasions. His detractors have said he is overly ambitious (as he showed when he helped to nudge Secretary of State William P. There is no dispute that his career has defied easy labels. I'm surprised they mentioned such a nefarious deed in such an otherwise gushing article. Well, once again we find that clowning and anarchy don't mix. Is it possible that the administration is using these inappropriate appointments so as to fathom how neglected and feeble our democracy has become? Unfortunately, I think Bush will, again, be encouraged to find the US public asleep at the wheel. If I'd known we were going to cast our feelings into words I'd have memorized the Song of Solomon. I'll bet you thought Eddie Murphy's obscenity-laced show were funny, too. If I'd known we were going to cast our feelings into words I'd have memorized the Song of Solomon. Lots of people laugh at Get Your War On, Lenny Bruce, and Eddie Murphy, so they are funny. So this is what Newspeak really feels like by 144 Airbag 1 at Wed 27 Nov 8:15pm score of 1 A sentence is spoken that at first makes no sense whatsoever. But the reality behind it slowly seeps in like a scotch too many on a twisty road and then you realize the sentence is the only possible sentence anyone can still utter. And yet, his realpolitik policy with the Soviets was probably necessary. We'd had ideological confrontation with the Soviets in the Kennedy Administration over Berlin and Cuba and nearly got the world into a nuclear war. Furthermore, I don't believe that Kissinger is directly guilty of any crimes committed by the Chilean military. He may have known about them, but to whom was he going to complain? He has never been a likeable man, but neither was Otto von Bismarck, and Germany did well with him. Re: Kissinger is unfairly maligned by 160 mad_clown 1 at Thu 28 Nov 8:54pm score of 1 in reply to 161 comment 13 I have to agree. He's a practical and experienced diplomat, and overall, I respect his political judgement. Also, let's not forget that Kissinger has been outspoken in his warnings and criticisms of the Administration's plans to go into Iraq, so he's not exactly a cheerleader for Bush. Much of his argument, especially when he's talking about Chile and Vietnam/Cambodia is fairly convincing. Unfortunately, at least in the edition in my hands right now, he includes not a single footnote or bibliography. He cites sources without giving readers any way to independently verify them, and that's bad scholarship. We can't get away with making those kinds of claims without proper citations on Plastic, and any college freshman who tried turning in a paper that way would be flunked without a second thought. Needless to say, that leads me to severely doubt a lot of what's said in the book. At any rate, I think Kissinger is a fairly good choice for the job in this particular case. He may be something of a boogeyman for a lot of people, but let's not downplay his qualities either. Society had become divided into two ideologically hostile camps, and each viewed the other with suspicion. Re: Kissinger is unfairly maligned by 166 strumbucket 1 at Fri 29 Nov 12:05pm score of 1 in reply to 167 comment 13 Furthermore, I don't believe that Kissinger is directly guilty ... |