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2002/11/27-28 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:26654 Activity:very high
11/27   How is a Kissinger led fact-finding commission going to reassure
        Americans about anything? I really don't understand this, what
        is Bush's purpose in putting that man in charge? Conservatives,
        help me understand here, is Kissinger actually well respected and
        trusted by anyone? -ausman
        \_ it's about the money.  It's all about the money.
        \_ could you give a news link to tell those of us who live in
           a Faraday cage with a text terminal what you are talking about?
           \_ http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/27/politics/27CND-BUSH.html
        \_ The Nobel committee (along with Arafat).  -tom
        \_ He is, no shit, a rock star to conservatives young and old.
     Let me speak honestly, frankly, openheartedly. You are a liar.
                                        --Le Duc Tho to Henry Kissinger
     I showed nothing on my face, but in my heart, I laughed and laughed.
                                        --Henry Kissinger
                                                                \- psb
           \_ In a way, Kissiner is an American hero.  He act solely upon
              the interest of American States. In the process, again
              and again fulfilled American's Imperial agenda over the
              world.  The price, is violate just about every  idealogy
                which the founding fathers envisioned about human rights,
                civil rights, and democracy.  Then again, he got
                Nobel Peace price, something I still couldn't figure out
                why.
                \_ The FF didn't believe in democracy or what we today refer
                   to as human rights.  As far as the "Imperial" agenda goes,
                   we'd be the first country to ever exert our so called
                   imperial power through McDonald's and Nike.  If other
                   countries don't want us to be powerful they should stop
                   giving us so much money for our stuff.  The Nobel PP is a
                   complete crock.  They gave it to Arafat, a known murderer
                   and terrorist.  Try to figure *that* one out.  Kissinger
                   might not be a nice person but he never pulled a trigger.
        \_ I'm not sure which is a better line but we need more of both of
           these types of men.
        \_ Kissinger: He'll find whatever there is to find.  It is just a
           case of how it gets reported and spun.  As far as will it reassure
           anyone, dunno.  I find it more reassuring than if say Jimmy Carter
           or some other ninny was doing it.  At least this way there'll be a
           file with the truth in it that'll come out in 50 years at worst.
           \_ Okay, some are reassured. That is all I wanted to know, thanks.
              \_ And others are waiting to see where they're going to fit
                 Haig back into the club.
                 \_ Or maybe Walter Mondale.  He'd make a good Senator or
                    something!
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Kissinger, a Republican who has been one of the most respected but polarizing figures in foreign policy and Washington for more than three decades, to lead an independent investigation into the Sept. Kissinger, the president selected a person whose reputation as a towering intellect in foreign policy is matched by the passions he has aroused among critics of his role in the Vietnam War, relations with the Soviet Union and the exercise of American power in Latin America. Bush made the appointment as he signed legislation creating the commission, a step he came to support after opposing the bill for much of the year partly on the ground that it could divert attention from the war on terrorism. Mitchell, the former Senate majority leader and peace envoy to Northern Ireland and the Middle East, as vice chairman. The commission's mandate is to conduct a wide-ranging inquiry into the causes of the attacks, whether they could have been averted and what changes are needed to prevent a similar occurrence. The commission is required to complete its work within 18 months - a timetable that would have it issue its final report in the middle of a presidential election year - though Mr. The leaders of the two parties in Congress must appoint the rest of the members by Dec. The commission will have the power to issue subpoenas by majority vote, and lawmakers have urged that it cast its net widely and interview current and former government officials, including Mr. Kissinger's long experience in and out of government, including his service as secretary of state in the Nixon and Ford administrations, in putting him in charge of an inquiry intended to explore how failures in intelligence, immigration controls, law enforcement and foreign policy in the Bush and Clinton administrations might have contributed to the deaths of more than 3,000 people in the terrorist attacks. His investigation should carefully examine all the evidence and follow all the facts, wherever they lead,'' Mr. Kissinger was an attractive choice for the job because while he has extensive experience, he has been out of government long enough that he has few ties to the people and agencies whose actions he would be examining. Advisers to the White House said the administration believed that Mr. Kissinger had sufficient prestige that he could be independent of Mr. It also raised questions among Democrats about whether Mr. Kissinger, who has served in some capacity under Nixon and every Republican president since, would be willing to pursue an aggressive investigation that would delve into delicate topics like the role of Saudi Arabia and risk findings that could prove politically explosive for Mr. Kissinger's record of operating in secrecy and accusations about his involvement in incidents like the 1973 coup in Chile that toppled the Socialist government of Salvador Allende. Kissinger's stature and visibility, combined with the appointment of Mr. Mitchell by the Democrats and promises by the victims' families to keep up the pressure for a no-holds-barred inquiry, ensured that the commission would not be toothless. Kissinger, should try to help the administration learn the tactics and motives of the enemy.