11/21   Crazy criminal shit happening in West Berkeley as I write this -
        Choppers overhead and streets barricaded. Check http://sfgate.com for
        the low-down. 2PM
        \_ Chickens coming home to roost, yo.
        \_ I thought the full moon was on Monday....
        \_ it's berkeley.  standard.  nothing of note going on.  we used to
           \_ bank guards getting shot is not standard, fuck off.
           hear gun shots fairly regularly near my south side apartment and
           some guy got shot n killed 2 houses down one summer in a drug deal
           gone bad.  no biggie. GO BEAR!
           \_ Ooh. You've seen it all, haven't you ghetto boy?
              \_ shrug, whatever.  just because your daddy is rich doesn't
                 mean life was so easier for everyone else.  say hi to yermom
                 for me and tell her how much i appreciated the cash for
                 rendering services your daddy couldn't perform.
                 \_ Funny. That's what I was about to say to you. So where
                    are you hiding from it now, gb? As the above reply
                    points out, today's event was not standard and you're an
                    effete twat implying it is. Some of us live here.
                    \_ I wish to hand out cookies for the both of you.
                    \_ I graduated and got the fuck out of that pit, that's
                       what I did and where I am now.  There's no pride in
                       living in a south side slummy ghetto shithole.  I'm
                       doing quite well now and damned proud of it and never
                       going back.  You're a damned fool if you're trying to
                       imply that there's some holy mark of pride for living
                       in a slum.  It's standard because it's standard.  Shit
                       happens to good people in bad places all the time. You
                       taking personal offense doesn't change that.  facts is
                       facts, son, deal.
                       \_ No, I think the other guy was implying that your
                          pseudo non-chalant attitude is a stupid affectation.
                          You're the one that seems to want to make this about
                          some lame badge of honor or something.
                          \_ Not at all.  I was saying that such a thing is
                             so common in such places why bother to note it as
                             some sort of special horror?
                       \_ There is pride in being a self-made man, coming
                          from humble origins and becoming successful:
                          something you whiney brats born with a silver spoon
                          in your mouth will never understand.
                          \_ Exactly my point.  -fled the slums
                \_ go go gadget free association!
           \_ The bad guys are shot in a drug deal gone bad, but today the
              ones shot were innocent victims.
              \_ no one is innocent.
                 \_ why don't you come over for dinner?  I need help digging
                    a hole and polishing my .45
                    \_ see what I mean?  you'll all a bunch of psychos. theres
                       no innocents, only victims.
              \_ Oh and it's ok when a drug dealer gets murdered?  WTF is wrong
                 with you!?  They're people too.  You think they'd be dealing
                 if they had another real choice in life other than pumping
                 your gas or serving you fries?
        \_ I wish the cops shoot the gunman dead.
         \_ You can say "I hope the cops shoot..." or "I wish that the
            cops shoot..." but "I wish the cops shoot..." is bad grammar.
                 \_ shot
            \_ I to be speaking better imblish for you.
               \_ YAR!
            \_ Indenting by one space is bad MOTD indentation.