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2002/11/16-17 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:26563 Activity:very high
11/15   http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=14552
        Your right-wing foreign policy in action (inaction?)
        \_ Ok, so the NGO's, read the U.N., spend all the money
           on office space and amenities and you want to blame
           the President?  Wait, isn't it these same NGO's that have
           run the Palestine occupied territories for 50+ years?
           U.S. soldiers don't need to be there, Turkey (a Muslim
           country in case you didn't know) is providing the
           security force.  Otherwise the article makes no
           relevant points.
        \_ Why is it always the US that gets blamed for everything?  How about
           you post some figures on how much aid was promised by the Euros vs.
           how much aid they actually sent?  How about you tell us how great
           it would be in Afghanistan if the Taliban were still in charge?
           No matter how much we do or spend or fix it's never enough for you,
           until you eventually point the other finger and say we're being
           imperialists and destroying their culture and right to free choice
           in how they run their country.  Gach... why do I bother feeding
           the trolls?
           \_ Cause it's our fault.  Live with it and have fun pissing off the
              next idiot who starts a tirade about "you Americans..."  -John
           \_ Everyone know the US foreign aid is rather low compared to
              other developed nations.  However private donations is
              quite high (eg. Bill Gates).
              \_ Everyone know?  How about a URL?  Everyone know indeed.
                \_ ROTF
                \_ Be nice to the f.o.b.
                   \_ Yeah yeah, show me the URL already.  Being fob doesn't
                      get him out of that.
                      \_ Stfw.  If you don't read, at least don't be a lazy
                         fuck.  I have no interest in expending any energy
                         to prove something to dumb arses like you.  On the
                         other hand, how is foreign aid relevant to the
                         discusion?  I must have misread the original post.
                         Crap!
                         \_ Not my job to stfw.  If he's going to make random
                            claims it is his job to back them up.  Until he
                            supports his claims with real references his claims
                            are meaningless.  If you're the FOB who is posting
                            zero-reference out-your-ass claims then you need to
                            either stop wasting precious bits on the net with
                            that crap or back them up.  You're sure as hell in
                            no position to whine that other people won't do
                            your research for you and then whine further that
                            they are the lazy ones and not yourself.
                         \_ only homosexuals use the word "arse".
                            \_ I use the word "arse", and I didn't know yermom
                               went for doggy style with homosexuals.  -John
                                \_ put back on the chaps and get your arse over
                                   here.  Daddy needs some sweet sweet loving.
                                                                -aspo
                      \_ When did this start?  I thought acting like a
                         clueless foreigner was a virtual "get out of
                         jail free" card in this society?
                         \_ Contrararily, whiney "They are stealing our jobs"
                            natives are the ones who want all the freebies.
                            \_ Uhm, duh, are you out of school?  They *are*
                               taking American jobs.  -lost job to H1b
              \_ Except this analysis ignores billions in U.S. military
                 expenditures to protect US and allied interests around the
                 globe.  Take for example, the Fifth Fleet protects Europes
                 oil in the Gulf of Arabia, Europe and Pacific allies lived
                 under the nuclear umbrella of the US since WWII, NATO/ U.N.
                 military missions, etc. etc. etc.
                 \_ Free food and patent busting medicine = good.  Freedom of
                    speech, freedom of movement, freedom to have the US protect
                    you from your intolerant and insanely criminal neighbors
                    with the US military = bad.  US = bad.  Europe = good.  Is
                    it all clear now?
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In the event that Saddam does cooperate with the inspections - I'm not taking bets - and no provocation occurs, Bush's dash to war will falter. In any event, it will probably be several weeks before there are any indications whether inspections will prevent a war. But with the war-or-no-war point approaching, it is a good time to consider what is occurring in post-war Afghanistan. He added, "We are helping the people to now recover from years of tyranny and oppression. The reconstruction funds the Bush White House requested for Afghanistan have been flowing slowly to the country. Moreover, several months ago the White House opposed an effort in Congress to add $200 million to the total. These civil-affairs units typically work on small-scale projects, rebuilding a school, repairing an irrigation system. Perhaps more importantly, the Bush Administration has also declined to beef up the international peacekeeping force in Afghanistan, which is mainly limited to Kabul. Consequently, warlordism has prospered in other regions. On the streets of Kabul, she found a woman named Nadina who had walked five hours from her village to bring her son, Gulajan, to a hospital after he had fallen into a coma in his local hospital when it ran out of food. In early November, it released a report on torture and repression in Afghanistan. For many Afghans, the end of the Taliban's uniquely oppressive rule was indeed a liberation. This has happened not simply because of the inherent difficulties of rebuilding an impoverished, devastated country, but because of choices the United States and other international actors have made, and failed to make. It documents widespread political intimidation, arrests, beatings and torture by the police and security forces under Ismail Khan's command. A man who was severely beaten by Ismail Khan's forces told Human Rights Watch: "What has changed in Afghanistan? By doing so, the United States avoids having to consider deploying peacekeepers in the area. One Herat resident quoted in the report said, "Ismail Khan and his followers - their hands are bloody. That should be kept in mind, as administration officials and others tout war in Iraq, especially if such a war is to be waged not just to disarm Saddam but to "liberate" the people of Iraq. If promises made to Afghanistan go unfulfilled, if the United States does nothing to challenge warlord dictators who come to power in the aftermath of its military victory there, what reason is there to believe the United States will do better - be more engaged and care more about post-war democracy and reconstruction - in Iraq? Also in 29 Top Stories 30 Reading the Tea Leaves By Bruce Kluger By David Slavin Apr 30, 2004 31 Nightline Snub By Timothy Karr Apr 30, 2004 32 The Military's Mounting Mental Health Problems By Bill Berkowitz Apr 30, 2004 33 Is Saudi Arabia Still the King of the Oil? By Julian Darley Apr 29, 2004 34 Pedestrian Paradise By Jay Walljasper Apr 30, 2004 Read other stories by 35 David Corn Email Send this story to a friend. From: To: Optional Message: Send Support AlterNet Do you value the information you're getting from AlterNet? Please show your support with a 36 tax-deductible donation.