Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 26502
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2002/11/10-11 [Computer/SW/Mail] UID:26502 Activity:high
11/10   In light of recent motd postings, why is pine such a bad mail agent?
        \_ It's a bitch to maintain, it has a huge memory footprint, it has
           broken locking, it's far less configurable than just about anything
           else you can chose, it uses pico by default which is a terrible
           thing to give a newbie as their first editor, it enforces bad
           habits, ...  is that enough?
           \_ so in other words you're a lazy sysadmin?  Yeah, I really
        \_ It's only a bad mail agent compared to all the other ones.
        \_ It doesn't embarrass paolo.
              wany my Doctor to be concerned about "how to use VI"
              in his spare time.
              \_ It's nothing about laziness.  If your "Doctor" is going to
                 need a mailagent, have him pop his mail off the server with
                 his favorite application.  Pine has so much wrong with it,
                 and so much time is wasted on maintaining it, it should be
                 a non-entity.  it amazes me that it's not.
              \_ how do you get 'lazy sysadmin' out of 'description of shitty
                 mail client'?  the above also said *nothing* about vi or your
                 doctor.  you're an idiot.  i normally don't just flat out call
                 someone an idiot but in your case it'll do.
                 \_ "normally don't"? not likely.
                    \_ I'm not tom.
        \_ It isn't.
          \_ Exactly. I've been using mutt for about a year now and I'm just
             about to switch back. There's things pine did better without me
             searching through documentation and config files. Oh. pgp. Mutt
             handles pgp encryption better. I'm not a sysadmin so that's
             the only thing I've found that works better.
             \_ what about firing off external programs to deal with
                attachments or HTML mail?  what about managing spam filters?
             \_ what does being a sysadmin have to do with anything?  just
                because the motd has one very loud semi-sysadmin who likes
                mutt does not mean mutt is worth half a damn.  please stop
                painting all sysadmins with the same stupidity brush.  i know
                a few motd reading sysadmins for longer than your mutt using
                pseudo sysadmin with the loud mouth and none of them use mutt.
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