10/28 Goddamn spam. Is there a good site that lists spammers that would
honestly remove you from their distribution if you go through their
unsubscribe process? It's been said that these actually just verify
that you have a working email address. I'm tired of having to add
the 10th billion variation of an address in Outlook's block list.
(Yes, I _have_ to use Outlook; no choice).
\_ http://freeroller.net/page/cbeust/20021022 You're welcome.
\_ Unsubscribe lists are their way of duping you into confirming
that there is a human receiving their mail. The best way
is to avoid posting your email on the internet at all.
\_ I have never found this to be the case (though many are ignored
and it isn't worth your time anyway since spammers rarely send
from the same list twice. If you are getting mail from the same
source over and over, opting out will not hurt (prob. won't help
either).
\_ Do not opt out. Do not reply. It can only hurt. Do you
work for a spammer or what?
\_ Some companies do indeed respect spam complaints as they
should, even going so far as to add constraints to their
clients database to prevent offended addresses from
being re-added, enforcing opt-in confirmation
requirements on all lists, etc. they're few and far
between, though, and the previous poster is half right.
It can _not_ hurt, but in most circumstances it will.
--scotsman
address
\_ Since the odds of getting a good company are near zero
it can only hurt you. The only companies that respect
list management replies are the ones you probably
intentionally opted in to in the first place. Random
pr0n spam companies do not respect anything. Do not
reply to random spam. It is easy to tell the diff.
\_ I suggest getting a new email address, cancel the old one and don't
use your real address for anything but friends and real business.
Hotmail & yahoo are there for your spam eating needs.
\_ get off your fucking ass and set up spamassassin, it's easy and
it works like a charm. --aaron
\_ This isn't always an option in a business environment but I agree
with you in the general case.
\_ Actually, if the OP is inquiring about business mail, they
should get of their fucking ass and tell the sysadmin to get
off their fucking ass and setup some kind of mail filtering.
\_ spamfiltering in corporate-NT land isn't so easy.
\_ dunno about the sysadmin side but we have a corporate
spam filter and it works pretty well (too well
really..but that's a small problem)
\_ as the sysadmin my answer would be "tough shit, talk to
the CTO and get budget and policy for it". I like my job.
My job is *not* to answer to you, the piddly drone bee.
My job is to do what the execs want. They don't want spam
filtering because it might kill a real email. Deal and
stop wasting corporate time posting on usenet all day.
\_ Oh yeah, policy comes straight from the CEO to the
sysadmin for important decisions like this.
\_ Depends on company size. As the grunt bottom rung
sysadmin I am not risking my job by implementing a
spam policy without buyin and write off by people
high enough up to protect my job when the CEO loses
email. You're a fool if you'd do otherwise.
\_ god, i hate people like you. but then, so does
everyone.
\_ I have a job. You don't have my job. Why should I
risk getting fired because you're getting spam? I
hate stupid selfish ignorant fuck sluts like you,
but then, so does everyone.
\_ i guess what i'm saying is "there is no way implementing
filtering is going to have less ROI than asking these
people to stop, because they won't." --aaron
\- ObEmacs:http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SpamStat
[however starting to use gnus has a bit of a learning crv]
\_ what kind of freak still uses emacs to read their
email? i mean seriously, I don't even think psb
does anymore.
\- actually worse than that! i use /usr/ucb/mail with some
code tweaks. emacs has a lot of very powerful mail
readers. you are no doubt E_TOOSHORT to use emacs to
read mail. --psb
\_ anyone who uses emacs to read mail is E_MORON
\_ SpamAssassin for Windows: http://www.deersoft.com
No need to install perl or any other UNIX crap on your NT box.
\_ you forgot to mention the $30 part.
\_ $30 is worth less than an hour of your time.
\_ Hour? What hour? And no its not. I get paid more than
that. You're also forgetting that it takes time to install
and configure vs the near zero amount of time I spend
dealing with spam. Who the hell are you to think my time
is worth less than $30/hour anyway? I was making more than
that right out of school. Sorry that you're not.
\_ My point is that $30 is nothing compared to your time.
Read more carefully please. |