Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 26348
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2002/10/28-29 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:26348 Activity:very high
10/28   Goddamn spam.  Is there a good site that lists spammers that would
        honestly remove you from their distribution if you go through their
        unsubscribe process?  It's been said that these actually just verify
        that you have a working email address.  I'm tired of having to add
        the 10th billion variation of an address in Outlook's block list.
        (Yes, I _have_ to use Outlook; no choice).
        \_ http://freeroller.net/page/cbeust/20021022 You're welcome.
        \_ Unsubscribe lists are their way of duping you into confirming
           that there is a human receiving their mail.  The best way
           is to avoid posting your email on the internet at all.
            \_ I have never found this to be the case (though many are ignored
               and it isn't worth your time anyway since spammers rarely send
               from the same list twice.  If you are getting mail from the same
               source over and over, opting out will not hurt (prob. won't help
               either).
                \_ Do not opt out.  Do not reply.  It can only hurt.  Do you
                   work for a spammer or what?
                   \_ Some companies do indeed respect spam complaints as they
                      should, even going so far as to add constraints to their
                      clients database to prevent offended addresses from
                      being re-added, enforcing opt-in confirmation
                      requirements on all lists, etc.  they're few and far
                      between, though, and the previous poster is half right.
                      It can _not_ hurt, but in most circumstances it will.
                      --scotsman
                      address
                      \_ Since the odds of getting a good company are near zero
                         it can only hurt you.  The only companies that respect
                         list management replies are the ones you probably
                         intentionally opted in to in the first place.  Random
                         pr0n spam companies do not respect anything.  Do not
                         reply to random spam.  It is easy to tell the diff.
        \_ I suggest getting a new email address, cancel the old one and don't
           use your real address for anything but friends and real business.
           Hotmail & yahoo are there for your spam eating needs.
        \_ get off your fucking ass and set up spamassassin, it's easy and
           it works like a charm. --aaron
           \_ This isn't always an option in a business environment but I agree
              with you in the general case.
              \_ Actually, if the OP is inquiring about business mail, they
                 should get of their fucking ass and tell the sysadmin to get
                 off their fucking ass and setup some kind of mail filtering.
                  \_ spamfiltering in corporate-NT land isn't so easy.
                        \_ dunno about the sysadmin side but we have a corporate
                                spam filter and it works pretty well (too well
                                really..but that's a small problem)
                  \_ as the sysadmin my answer would be "tough shit, talk to
                     the CTO and get budget and policy for it".  I like my job.
                     My job is *not* to answer to you, the piddly drone bee.
                     My job is to do what the execs want.  They don't want spam
                     filtering because it might kill a real email.  Deal and
                     stop wasting corporate time posting on usenet all day.
                     \_ Oh yeah, policy comes straight from the CEO to the
                        sysadmin for important decisions like this.
                        \_ Depends on company size.  As the grunt bottom rung
                           sysadmin I am not risking my job by implementing a
                           spam policy without buyin and write off by people
                           high enough up to protect my job when the CEO loses
                           email.  You're a fool if you'd do otherwise.
                     \_ god, i hate people like you.  but then, so does
                        everyone.
                        \_ I have a job.  You don't have my job.  Why should I
                           risk getting fired because you're getting spam?  I
                           hate stupid selfish ignorant fuck sluts like you,
                           but then, so does everyone.
              \_ i guess what i'm saying is "there is no way implementing
                 filtering is going to have less ROI than asking these
                 people to stop, because they won't." --aaron
           \- ObEmacs:http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SpamStat
              [however starting to use gnus has a bit of a learning crv]
                \_ what kind of freak still uses emacs to read their
                   email?  i mean seriously, I don't even think psb
                   does anymore.
                   \- actually worse than that! i use /usr/ucb/mail with some
                      code tweaks. emacs has a lot of very powerful mail
                      readers. you are no doubt E_TOOSHORT to use emacs to
                      read mail. --psb
                      \_ anyone who uses emacs to read mail is E_MORON
        \_ SpamAssassin for Windows: http://www.deersoft.com
           No need to install perl or any other UNIX crap on your NT box.
           \_ you forgot to mention the $30 part.
              \_ $30 is worth less than an hour of your time.
                 \_ Hour?  What hour?  And no its not.  I get paid more than
                    that.  You're also forgetting that it takes time to install
                    and configure vs the near zero amount of time I spend
                    dealing with spam.  Who the hell are you to think my time
                    is worth less than $30/hour anyway?  I was making more than
                    that right out of school.  Sorry that you're not.
                    \_ My point is that $30 is nothing compared to your time.
                       Read more carefully please.
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