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2002/10/7-8 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:26127 Activity:very high
10/7    What do you think of Apple's "Switch to Apple" campaign?  And what
        do you think of that IT director who said he used and liked unix
        before and is now moving to Apple?
        \_ "If it's on TV, then it must be real!" It's a commercial, it's
           fake. Although, sure, there may exist the possibility that one
           person on this planet who went from unix to apple.
           \_ Yep.  There's definitely at least one.  - misha.
              \_ I'm sorry.  You did this because...?  Not for the better
                 office applications, or games, or compatibility with other
                 people's file formats, or cheaper non-proprietary hardware....
                 It must be that you like the stoner chick in the apple ad from
                 spring and figured you could be cool like that too?  "BEEP!
                 BEEP! BEEP!  Like uh!  BEEP!"
                 \_ Beautiful fonts and rendering.  gcc/vi preinstalled.
                    And stoner chicks love it.  - misha.
                 \_ How about a GUI that is actually designed?  How about
                    not wasting time reading stupid, incomplete man pages?
                    How about an environment where apps all work together
                    and in a similar fashion. (Windows apps all have their
                    own conventions on buttons and menus.)
        \_ anybody know why apple went with the mach kernel instead of using
           freebsd in its entirety and just add the GUI on top?  What is so
           great about mach?
           \_ history? NeXT used the mach kernel.
           \_ Probably because it made it easier to run OS9 and OSX
              concurrently. --jwm
           \_ I've heard that it supposedly made it easier for apple to
              port to other architectures and it also makes it easier
              for device driver authors under OS X. Note that stock FreeBSD
              isn't very portable to non-x86 arch. because of numerous
              x86 specific optimizations in the vm subsystem, so even if
              apple wanted the FreeBSD kernel, they would have had a lot
              of work getting it to work on PPC.
           \_ at the time NeXT was choosing an OS, BSD is tangled in
              lawsuit.  So Steve decided to go to Mach.
        \_ The job title "IT Director" should explain it all.