10/3 Where can I get undergrad rankings? Interested in Harvey Mudd, etc
etc.
\_ 1. harvard
2. princeton
3. yale
4. mit
5. - 9. various other east coast schools
10. stanford
11. cal
12. - 200. more warm body environments
201. harvey mudd
\_ U.S. News and World Report?
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/rankindex_brief.php
\_ US News' rating system is pretty arbitrary, and doesn't apply
at all to schools which only have undergraduate programs (like
Mudd). -tom
\_ sure, it's arbitrary, but when people say a school is ranked
such and such, they are refering to the usnews ranking,
wether it's stupid and arbitrary or not. i've worked with
several people from all of the schools listed above since
graduating, and am damn glad i went to cal and not some
stupid east coast school where all the students are
identical.
\_ Identical can be good. Cal has so much variance, ymmv a lot.
There are really smart cal grads (like myself) and really
dumb ones (like you, heh). At your stupid east coast school,
what you see is what you get (alllooksame).
\_ One can make the argument that providing teaching alone does
not make a good undergraduate environment, especially for
people who actually wish to become scientists and engineers
themselves. I agree with that argument.
\_ i also agree.
\_ The counter-argument is that at a school like Mudd,
undergrads work directly with their professors and are
given top priority, which doesn't tend to be true at
research universities. It's a tradeoff. -tom
\_ CS ranking or overall?
\_ Where do CalTech, CMU and Cornell rank?
\_ Caltech |